Re: PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

Guys, there's no place for debate here. You may not like how Marco is talking to you but he's deeply right. I'll be asking only one thing: what help do you need for a warning to appear on the PHP website. - Pull request with a flag? - Content for an article saying the PHP community stands with Ukraine and demands the end of any fight in Ukraine? Debate has no place here, let's start concrete action please. With hope and sadness, Maxime *–* Maxime Le sam. 5 mars 2022 à 10:58, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> a écrit : > On Sat, 5 Mar 2022, 04:31 Kris Craig, <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:51 AM Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hey Christian, > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:41 PM <naitsirch@e.mail.de> wrote: > >> > >> > this is exactly the problem. Russia did not just invaded Ukrainia out > of > >> > nowhere. The story started in 2014 with the illegal coup d'etat > against > >> > Viktor Yanukovych and its acceptance by the western countries. Or even > >> > earlier, with the eastern extension of the EU and the Nato, to get > >> Ukriane > >> > on their side, stoping the political neutrality of Ukraine between > >> Russia > >> > and the western. > >> > > >> > As you see, it is not as simple. Should we start a discussion now? I > do > >> > not think so. It would not help anybody. Wars or conflicts are never > >> > simple. Usually there's a long story. > >> > Taking ones side in political conflicts will separate the community > for > >> > sure. > >> > > >> > Please do not start that. > >> > > >> > You and anybody else can show their political position on twitter, > >> > facebook or elsewhere. We do not need to do that on php.net. > >> > > >> > >> Please GTFO: we don't need more of Putin's propaganda over here, as > >> they're > >> busy enough with butchering civilians over there. > >> > >> Greets, > >> > >> Marco Pivetta > >> > >> http://twitter.com/Ocramius > >> > >> http://ocramius.github.io/ > > > > > > I find this deeply, deeply disturbing. > > > > Good: time for some self introspection then. > > As for the rest of the thread, I am deeply ashamed of the state of > php-internals. > > https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gfsiw2pf_Y0&time=1h44m48s > > I will take (continue taking) action elsewhere: the fact that some of you > are "disturbed" by my message, means that it came through as intended. > > > >