Re: some ideas for open discussion

since php.net is able to re-direct you to a mirror for search why don't re-direct when they want to see a manual page. a lot of people will go to www.php.net/something and that are 2 requests. it could be 1 request at the www.php.net and 1 request at a mirror. that way all visitors with a 'lang' cookie will visit there mirror and people that don't got a cookie yet will use www.php.net of course the mirrors need to allow this ... Allowee On Friday 23 May 2003 17:57, "Spyros Ioakim" <sioakim@atlas.ace-hellas.gr> wrote: > > On Friday 23 May 2003 16:47, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > > Problem: > > > > > > - php.net cannot take the load of htdig > > > > > > > > > Solution: > > > > > > - keep the good old way of using ch.php.net for searching if a > > > mirror has no support for local search > > > - redirect to ch.php.net from www.php.net, but provide a > > > different originating server adress, fooling ch.php.net to > > > direct the user to a different server instead of php.net > > > > What about blocking bots like google on the search pages. > > > > there are a lot of sites with the shortcuts php.net/echo > > and bots just crawl that.. > > > > and maybe another idea... > > common requests, like time (which I lookup sometimes) placed > > in an array. when there is a request for the time() function > > it will search the array or > > something and won't use htdig for that. > > Yes but normally you would lookup time in the function list not in the > whole site. > > > and maybe php.net can use the timezones. > > sounds strange but might be a good idea. > > > > When it's afternoon in The Netherlands it's just morning in > > the USA. where is the highest load? just re-direct the user > > to a mirror with a lower load, not just the country > > mirror. > > It's a good idea but again it should be faster to redirect to a local > mirror than to a different country. > As people said most countries have connections to the US only and not to > a European backbone. > So it might be slower to some people to redirect to some other country > than to their own country regardless of the time. > > I agree with the second method of course to keep ch.php.net but to > improve it as follows: > > We have 2 cases where the site search is being executed (if you find > more we should probably list them here): > 1. Top of the page in the box when you select whole site > 2. When you search in the function list, you don't find something > interesting and you click on the link to search for the whole site. > > Ideas on those two: > 1. Instead of really executing the query there is an intermediate page > that checks the country. > a. If there is a mirror in that country with local mirror support then > the good old search page is included (not redirected) > So if I'm looking in www.php.net for "sybase install" the script will > find that I'm in Greece (easy), will find that gr2.php.net has local > search support (easy?) and will include > > http://gr2.php.net/search.php?show=wholesite&pattern=sybase+install > The results will return within gr2.php.net so the user will continue the > surfing in the mirror. > b. If there isn't a mirror in that country with local mirror support > then a local mirror is selected but since it doesn't offer local search > it will get results from ch.php.net and return links to the local > mirror. > > 2. The same thing applies here. But instead create the link that > searches the whole site to a local mirror. > If the mirror has local search support it will reply faster. If not it > will ask ch.php.net (the old way) and return links to itself. > > This way there is never a search executed within php.net and whenever > somebody searches something he will continue surfing in the local > mirror. > > Of course there should be a way to be able to select to stay in the > current mirror even if you want to browse a different country and > probably this should be dealt by a parameter on where the link came > from. If it came from www.php.net redirect the user otherwise don't > lookup for a different mirror. > > Those are my thoughts. > > Comments are always welcome as we are brainstorming anyway.... > > Spyros