RE: local search support

From: Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 14:00:02 +0000
Subject: RE: local search support
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I missed this thread and discussion since I was out yesterday, however there are a few things I would like to throw in here just to make things a bit clearer. > The roots of the problems are coming from the 'new way' or working here > as it seems to me. I think this is visible since a few days here, and > Wez's big changes are the crown on that. The following what is I see > from the situation. I know Wez said he don't care what is visible 'from > outside', but every member of the mirror maintanence group, who is not > on systems@ sees things from outside. > this is unfortunate. However, there is no real way of fixing this; systems@ discussion must remain private for obvious reasons, and sometimes we run into problems like we did just recently where we have to fix it, no matter what. BTW, if this required having to rewrite a bunch of php engine code because it was sloppy to fix it, we would, and it'd get checked in. That would be commit-then-review, and there really is no problem with that sometimes. In this instance, we didn't have time to email php-mirrors and suggest the idea and discuss for a day or two. it wasn't feasible. we had to either shut down www.php.net or just do it. FWIW, the load has been at about 5-10 on a 5 minute avg for about 3 months, since alot of the changes to the website were made. We have been experimenting with various cache options to improve everything (we have been running at 80%+ cpu for a while) and increase responsivity. We have been experimenting with new kernels, reverse proxies, and god knows what else. if this situation occurs again, about any service we provide, and we need to make a change, we'll make that change. we can discuss later, and refine. I'm sure Wez doesn't mind if we end up refactoring his code into something else.... it did the job that was required. As far as my recent posting of errors -- had I time to fix them, I would have done... i did what anyone did -- posted them here and asked if anyone had time to fix them. if no-one did, then that's fine... but that's the spirit of community and co-operation. As far as Andrew's commit: well, that was not an emergency commit, so the excuse of no-time for discussion doesn't make sense :). There are also real reasons why it was the other way too, so jumping in and committing was a bit wierd. Gabor, don't take offence at all this. you aren't slaves. it's just that sometimes we have to look in another direction, ie, looking after the servers. -- james

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