RE: [PEAR-DEV] [PROPOSAL] DB_Simple
| From: | Lukas Smith | Date: | Sat, 01 Nov 2003 01:29:32 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PEAR-DEV] [PROPOSAL] DB_Simple | ||
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> From: Paul M Jones [mailto:pmjones@ciaweb.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:00 PM
<snip>very detailed proposal</snip>
I will take a look at your ideas in the coming days.
Generally I think you hit a lot of issues spot on.
MDB is currently too complex. Reading Alan's reply you also seem to have hit
some missing stuff in DataObject.
Then again both package authors are currently addressing those limitations.
MDB 2.x is loads simpler then MDB 1.x. Alan is adding stuff to DataObject
and once our rather elaborate plans of integrating the yet to be released
DB_Schema with MDB with DataObject with some Form package with Validate
become a reality we can obviously apply for world domination.
Then again those plans are rather elaborate. So they will take time.
At the same time I am hesitant to add another package in this area. Remember
we also have QueryTool (which also has a new version in the works). At the
same time your package is very real and sounds like it could solve user
problems.
I guess in a perfect world we would all be working on the one true solution.
Well this world isn't perfect, so we all seem to be approaching the issue
from several sides. I am not sure if this will provide an ultimate benefit
for the users by giving more choice or if it will lead to now people being
confused about which if the zillion DB package to big from (well we already
have that confusion we would only make it worse).
Anyways I will ponder. I can't promise a date when my stuff will be ready. I
can promise that it would be early of competent people would join the effort
of course :-) So all in all its quite unfair to say no to a package because
of stuff that are not available. However MDB 2.x is really close. The only
reason I have not released it is that I am waiting for improvements in the
PEAR installer. At that point MDB will be loads simpler and also a port of
DataObject in the current form would be trivial.
Regards,
Lukas