Re: Adoption of Metabase (was Re: [PEAR-DEV]Re:Comparing ADODB with PEAR DB, Metabase andNative MySQL)

"Bertrand Mansion" <bmansion@mamasam.com> wrote in message news:CC17D1C6-DDBE-11D5-880D-00039311F000@mamasam.com... > > > To me, as an objective user on the sideline, it looks like if the PEAR > > team > > are really eager to develop their own DB abstraction layer, which seems > > kinda silly considering the number of such layers allready out there. > > Why > > reinvent the wheel when you can port some already mature solution?! > > Metabase > > seems to offer what is needed, and has matured for two years right?. > > As a > Why not PHPlib, ADODB and so on ? > It is not because something has been here a long time that it is mature. > How old are you ? Do you consider yourself as mature ? No not necessarily, but it the longer something has been around the better are the chances that bugs have been removed. My impression of Metabase is very good, and the main idea in my post was that rather than writing a new DB layer, adopt one existing. But, I'm not expert on the other abstraction layers available, and obviously the developers should choose the best one. > > PHP user, I'm really eager to see something come out of PEAR, but the > > reluctance to adopt a good solution that I've seen over the past days > > here > > really surprises me and makes me wonder when I will see something useful > > come out of PEAR. > Pick up your keyboard and start doing something, but stop criticizing > other people's work as you have no ideas how long it takes to make it > happen. There are a lot of useful things in PEAR which I use daily to > make our programming easier and cleaner. Study the code there is in PEAR > components, you might learn a lot. Then, if you find anything you don't > like, just submit your changes. Aw shit! Why do people always have to pull that "stop whining and do it yourselves"? I mean, just because I'm not a PEAR developer am I not entitled to an opinion? If users didn't criticize the work done by the developers, then how would they get any feedback? I would be glad to help if I felt that there was anything I could do, but I can't go in and start replacing PEAR-DB with Metabase now can I? To me it seems like PEAR is too early in development for use in a standard production enviroment, and the documentation at pear.php.net is almost empty? > The point is not to change the DB abstraction layer, the point is how to > improve it. Exactly. André Næss