Re: Re: how to deal with php5 only packages

David Costa wrote:

On Jun 16, 2004, at 4:19 PM, Hans Lellelid wrote:

Lukas Smith wrote:

The question is more about timing. For one we need to get a feel for how PHP5 behaves in the real world and PHP5 itself needs to stabalize. Unfortunately I have a feeling this will pan out similar to how things did in PHP4, so I would say we should determine for which PHP version we plan to allow stable php5 only releases (note we can surely have php5 only packages before, just not stable). This version is obviously not written in stone and can be changed as we play around with PHP5. I propose to wait for PHP 5.1.0 before we allow stable PHP5 only packages.

I propose 5.0.1. 5.1 is going to add many new features (hopefully namespaces! -- not that anyone has said so) so packages that take advantage of 5.1 features may not be usable w/ PHP 5.0 anyway.

I agree. If PHP core says that the release is stable, then it should be deem as such. It would be really out of place to limit PEAR progress to "when we think it is really stable". In any case if the package is PHP 5 only I don't see what kind of problem can occur with the usage on 5.0.1 or even 5.0.0. At the same time I see Lukas point so if we have to recommend something that is fine by me as long as it doesn't become something forced.

I was talking about a hard rule. But anyways I wasnt clear when I said stable. I meant useable in the real world. Of course PHP5 is useable, but not yet proven in the real world. I dont remember the specifics of the PHP4 release cycle, but I am sure if we had this discussion back then, the same arguments would have been made as you are making today. regards, Lukas Smith smith@backendmedia.com _______________________________ BackendMedia www.backendmedia.com berlin@backendmedia.com Linn Zwoch Smith GbR Pariser Str. 44 D-10707 Berlin Tel +49 30 83 22 50 00 Fax +49 30 83 22 50 07