Re: New Package Procedure?

Hi It looks to me as this 7 days timing is very theoretical. Am I wrong ? Isn't it more a matter of months for PEAR developers to find enough time to review a proposal ? Everybody's busy out there... When you talk about "announcing that you intend to call for votes", do you really mean "announcing" or more "asking", like "Is it ok with you all if I call for votes" ? PEPr does drop mails on the mailing list, but it seems like these automatic messages are not given a lot of attention... I guess proposal success is mainly determined by spontaneous contributions to the mailing list. Why not giving to anyone, not only registered developers, the oportunity to review (!= vote) proposals ? One thing is very sure : users are the first ones to know if a package seems useful or not. It is well-known that, in any environment, the developers' point of view is biaised about usability and usefulness, compared to the users' one. Of course the code quality and related issues have to be approved by voting by the developers community. But, when taking their decision, developers also need to read about the users' point of view. I believe there should be some ranking/feedback system for users (unregistered, anonymous) who come along pear's website, for both packages and proposals. Apart from bug reports, users do not get enough oportunities to express themselves, in my own opinion. Think of php.net's comments interface... Regards -- og Alan Knowles wrote:

From http://pear.php.net/manual/en/newmaint.proposal.step3.php "After a week of comments you may switch to the next phase. You should only switch to the next stage, if you are sure that the PEAR community will accept your package." As we have alot of proposals sitting in the 'proposal stage', and the 7 days thing is rarely done, perhaps that should be changed to something like: "You may enter the next phase (voting), after a week and if you are sure that the PEAR community will accept your package. However, it is good practice to email the pear-dev@list.php.net mailing list announcing that you intend to call for votes in 7 days, to ensure that everyone is aware of your schedule." Regards Alan Michael Wallner wrote:

Hi Olivier Guilyardi, you wrote:

I am myself a bit confused by the proposal procedure. I've posted XML_Indexing, and as said in the manual, I called for votes one week after the initial submission. And to this day I'm not getting any vote... I'm afraid there may not be any when voting time ends, 5 days from here...

The voting period will be expanded for another week (once) if there are not enough votes. If there are still unsolved issues, one shouldn't call for votes, AFAIR there were some rumors about a proposal lock mechanism in PEPr. Regards,