Re: Some PEAR remarks

Manuel, in your world think as if I'm not in. All your problems are gone! Tomas V.V.Cox Manuel Lemos wrote: > > Hello, > > "Stig S. Bakken" wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 17:12, Manuel Lemos wrote: > > > > > > I always said, I do not want to go where I am not wanted. But if I am > > > not wanted, I would like those that do not want me to have the decency > > > of admiting it publically so he stop making each other spend time on > > > things that will never happen. > > > > Okay, let me make this clear: the kind of behaviour you are showing here > > is completely off-base. You may be a brilliant coder and even a nice guy > > for all I know, but all I have seen from you on this list is relentless > > self-promotion and accusations that are on the verge of paranoia. If > > this is what you intend to keep doing, I sure don't want you here. > > I'm sorry but I am just expressing exactly what I think. Despite all the > discussions, I thought it was accepted the work to merge Metabase in > PEAR-DB. Lukas has been working very hard to make it happed despite all > difficulties of acceptance that you keep making. > > Just the other day, I asked him how it was coming and he told me about > his frustration that despite his dedication, Tomas is still rowing > against his efforts. > > He told me that even after Lukas reformatted the code to conform to your > unflexible rules, Tomas is still raising objections regarding Metabase > performance claims and that Tomas is not willing to help in practice. > > I would understand if Tomas just did not cooperate because he would not > have time, but Lukas told me that instead of helping him to overcome the > so claimed performance issues, Tomas is spending time optimizing the > current PEAR-DB implementation. A person that does not the time to help > overcome the so claimed Metabase performance issues, certainly does not > have the time to overcome the current PEAR-DB implementation performance > issues. > > Look, we are not stupid that we don't understand that Tomas is just > working hard on perpertuating the current PEAR-DB implementation because > it is his beloved code. Improving the current PEAR-DB performance is > just a way boycott the merger by claiming that Metabase would not > outperform his current PEAR-DB implementation. > > If he would really be truthfully willing to help Metabase-PEAR-DB merger > to happen, he would not be rowing in the opposite direction. > > I don't know what you think of us, but we are not kids to be bothered to > enter in "Tomas boycotts Metabase" games. > > PEAR and the PHP community in general could benefit of a better standard > database abstraction package right away by benefiting of all Metabase > advantages that I will not bother to repeat once again. However, the > community is just not benefitting from it because Tomas ego and his > obcession to perpetuate his PEAR-DB code, is more important than the > benefit of the whole community. > > I will tell you once more, if Tomas is set to succeed in the Metabase > merger boycott, I would like him to be a man and step forward and admit > it, so we stop spending time on something will not happen and the > community be clarified that the Metabase-PEAR-DB merger will not happen > because in fact you do not want it to happen. > > > > I find it striking that critisim of PEAR comes so easy to you when you > > are running a "competing" project with banner ads that you have > > expressed the intent of being able to sustain yourself economically on? > > You are wild-guessing. Let me clarify that you're guess is wrong. > > I do not have a competing project. If you assume that my PHP Classes > site is a competing project, that would certainly explain why you have > been making it so hard since PEAR was started, to not say impossible, to > accept anything that is related with my work. > > I am trying to make the PHP Classes a source of income so I can justify > the full time work that I dedicate to it. That is natural thing because > like most people that have a family to sustain and if I can't make my > work on the site sustain my family, I have to seek some other job and > will have to stop the site. > > This is none of your business but since you implied false claims of my > posture relating it with my site goals, I can tell you what I have in > mind is providing more services than the site provides now for free. I > still even don't know if what I have in mind will become viable. > > Unfortunately banner ads do not do to make the site survive, especially > because the PHP community is a very small niche market for advertisers > to invest on. I would love to be proved wrong. Since you are somehow in > the Internet business, I thought you should know that better. > > Anyway, my posture regarding PEAR is consistent has ever. You work with > rules that favor elitist (only a few can contribute) as opposed to > making it more open to the whole community. Like others have expressed > as well, I think you are missing chances to make PEAR and PHP more > popular to assure that it will survive over the years. > > This is just one aspect that you PHP developers are missing. I will not > repeat previous arguments, but I am afraid that in a few years the PHP > will be as small as for instance the TCL community, once a great > language, now in the shadow as yet another toy language only used by a > few fanatics. > > Having a single standard database abstraction layer for developing > portable database applications, not only is a need but is also urgent. > As we all know, the current PEAR-DB implementation is not there . > Metabase was the change to make it catch up before it is too late > because the lack of portability is yet another argument for the lack of > appeal of PHP that makes many people avoid it and many current users > drop it. > > I am concerned with that as ever. Too bad that for the sake of Tomas ego > you are not letting PHP/PEAR catch on. > > Regards, > Manuel Lemos