Re: removal of this list

Guilherme Blanco wrote: > I agree and disagree at the same time. > > Keep the list moderated and a closed group is bad as it is currently. > But leave it opened to everyone leads to anarchy. > > You refer to the list being opened, but it's curious that ns separator > was voted by 6 people in a closed IRC room. > Please don't get me wrong, I do not want to start a flaming discussion > here. We had a lot of polls too that was considered only people with > karma on php. > It's already a representative democracy what you did for ns and phar > being enabled by default for example. I even voted on it. > > What we want it is actually to have a representative democracy. It's a > closed group that accepts/deny proposals from anyone. > Considering this, I'm in favor to keep this list closed and moderated. > > > If you are *REALLY* in favor to keep democracy, let's find > representatives then. > I'm ok for a poll at internals to chose the representative guys of > standards list. I wasnt aware this list had any final say over what goes into the standard, not each post counts as a "vote". It is a medium for sharing ideas. The board is itself already closed. No one i have seen is saying *everyone* can have a *vote*. What is the case now, and what should be the case, is that any one can voice their ideas and opinions. Ideas are a market, with competition, youre trying to create a monopoly and that is a very bad idea, for the reasons listed ad nauseam: there are many, many instances where the final proposal has taken the time, effort and ideas of many people to reach. Perhaps you fail to see that youre acting on behalf of PHP, at least this is certainly how it will be received: this is a standard From PHP Itself. To have the community blocked out is criminal, hypocritical and entirely opposed to the spirit which has fostered the growth of PHP.