Re: Re: Hold off 5.4
| From: | Pierre Joye | Date: | Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:02:00 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: Hold off 5.4 | ||
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May I ask not to begin with that again? The php 2034 thing?
Let sort out what has to be sorted out, like the current proposals. In
the short term, a 5.x (with BC) is what users and developers are
looking for. We can then begin to think about the next big step.
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:58 PM, James Butler
<james.butler@edigitalresearch.com> wrote:
> Slightly brambly thoughts...
> I think (imho) the PHP6 hype in user land died down long ago after it became obvious it
> wouldn't materialise any time soon. It would be nice to see 6 to appear if only to break the
> (apparent) deadlock that the Unicode stuff brought on(I realise this is not enough justification by
> itself)
> What will this mean to all the Hosting providers etc who are still finishing long running
> 4->5 or 5.x -> 5.3 migrations? Will they resist change more because it looks like a bigger
> change regardless of the underlying code? As they provide installs/hosting for what I can guess to
> be a huge amount of the PHP's actual users is it factor that's worth considering
>
> I realise this is a Friday afternoon category comment but it can't wait..
> Think of all of those PHP6 books that will be reduced to near junk status in swift
> branch/commit action
> And as a bonus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:jani.taskinen@iki.fi]
>
> On Nov 25, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Patrick ALLAERT wrote:
>
>> 2010/11/25 Jani Taskinen <jani.taskinen@iki.fi>:
>>> Who says it has to be 5.4? People seem to be a bit fixated on the version there.
>>
>> I'd like to know too...
>>
>>> Major BC breaks just means the version released from trunk is 6.0. And it's just a
>>> number. Big number, but still just a number.
>>
>> Well, such a change tends to create a big buzz, without mentioning
>> stuff like certifications, trainings,...
>
> This is a joke, right?
>
>> We should avoid creating a virtual PHP 6.0 which will contain all the
>> BC stuff while all features appears in 5.x.
>> By doing so we will keep some shit in 5.x forever and won't have
>> anything appealing enough to migrate to 6.0
>
> ..or have something really new and interesting in PHP 7.0.0. The big version number change is
> reserved for BC changing stuff, not just for "fancy new stuff".
>
> --Jani
>
>
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