Re: Re: Hold off 5.4

Is it just unusually cold weather for this time of year or did the hell just freeze over? :-o Couldn't agree more on both points and I had the same thoughts about getting stuck with 5.x releases forever. And not getting any release out soon from trunk if this thread drags on too long. Maybe even skip 6 like Andi proposed and declare that from now even major versions are never released. Only prime numbers count. 7 is a prime number and it's the lucky one too. ;) --Jani p.s. Somehow this reminds me of one particular discussion in around 2001 about the versioning scheme.. :D 25.11.2010 23:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:

I think that skipping to a major version is a good idea. Two key reasons I think that: 1. It'll help us break the evil spell of the 6 version number. Honestly, I'm not so certain we'll have major engine rewrites the size of what we've seen in PHP 3/4/5 going forward. Sure, I have a track record for saying that in the past before PHP 5, but this time I *really* think we've reached an evolutionary stage :). Even if I'm wrong and we'd have a major rewrite happening, I don't think any of us is seeing it any time soon. 2. Maybe it's time to break the notion that a major number change means major breakage. Sometimes (like in Google Chrome), a major version can bring nothing but a few new features and significantly improve performance, without any additional pain. Not saying we should go to the extreme of releasing a major version every other week, but once a year or once every 18 months is a very reasonable frequency. Can't say I feel strongly about it, but I have a feeling that unless we change our versioning scheme a slight bit, we'll be stuck in the 5.x realm for a very long time (and I do think it actually reflects badly on the way the language is perceived to some degree). My 2c. Zeev

-----Original Message----- From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johannes@schlueters.de] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:55 PM To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Jani Taskinen; davey@php.net; PHP Internals Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 17:39 +0000, Andi Gutmans wrote:

This is no different in the Java world, C++ as it matured or some other technologies.

Java is currently at 1.6. (and 6 in Marketing) :-) C++ went from ISO/IEC 14882:1998 to ISO/IEC 14882:2003 and is waiting for C++0x, whatever the actual name will be. No good examples ;-) johannes -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php