Re: Midgard in the sky with ... PEAR?

On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 21:00, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi, > > I am part of the Midgarddev community, and we are discussing better > integration with PHP, PEAR and the general PHP dev community. Our > intention is to try and align Midgard with the standards, tools and > approaches that have been developing in te PHP dev community and are > consolidating on PEAR. > > So far, Midgard taken quite a separate path from the PHP development, > developing its own install mechanisms and tools. Now that PEAR is > gathering steam (and good code!) it seems sensible to start thinking of > using the PEAR facilities and bring our code to the party. > > This should be made easier by the fact that newer PHP versions support > Midgard better. That means that we don't need to patch PHP anymore and > that a PHP-only Midgard is possible (or becoming so). > > I would like to hear your thoughts on whether this is a good path to > follow or not. > I believe current views is that full frameworks shouldn't be in PEAR as a whole, since they tend to be not very modular (in the PEAR sense of the word), however if you can split parts of the framework out so that they'll work on their own I'm sure at least some of them would be more than welcome. > In nutshell, what I am looking for is: > > - Some discussion on whether we are welcome around here ;) > - are Midgard-specific modules welcome? See my above comment. > - should PEAR have a Midgard category? Probably not - my opinion is that they should be put in categories for what they do, rather than where they came from. > - or the Midgard community have a separate PEAR server users can > configure as a secondary source? (if PEAR tools allow) I guess that depends what you want to use it for - if you can split bits out, it would be great to have the code in the main PEAR repository, however if you just want to make installing new modules easier, it's probably best to use your own server... the pearweb module in CVS contains the server side code. This also brings up another subject - does the PEAR installer support multiple sources apt-get (Debian installer) style, where it will search a list of servers for the requested package? I'd love to use it to keep track of in-house code, but I can't find the option anywhere. > > Eventually, if PEAR is actually the place for Midgard code, we might be > looking for: > > - PEAR accounts for key Midgard developers. Shouldn't be a problem. > > - Some support as we start PEAR-izing our existing modules, code and > lifestyles. Also not a problem - fire away ;) Jon > > regards, > > > > > > martin > >