Re: Documentation..

Anatoly Techtonik wrote:

Hello Justin,

LS> why not just open a feature request with a link to the source ... i LS> doubt any developer wouldnt be happy to add the example to the distro LS> after a quick look over the source. Because it is not a feature request and dumb users like me are either too lazy to contribute to stale closed community or don't have a proper amount of imagination to draw association between Feature Request and Example. It can be my only IMHO, but (RFE != Example for existing feature).

JP> Stale? Closed? Are you trying to be a troll? If something hasn't been JP> updated then point it out and it will be dealt with. QA is doing a JP> good job trying to get maintainers for abandoned packages. *People are JP> busy*. You have to understand that this is all done *for free*. Stale means that there's no indication of PEAR's activity or it's status. Stale also mean, that users can see the result of they work. Their efforts are most of the time wasted and they can't get recognition. Stale means that 7 voices is enough to rule another 200. Stale means, that everybody seems to prefer to skip the problem than to solve it, because everyb. has no time. Stale also means that there's no trust to users. And hence no trust to developers.

I dont think you realize the level of democracy PEAR has compared to most other opensource projects ... php inparticular. Your point about documentation in general is well taken. Your arguments on a few ruling the rest are so far off base ... The point is that if you make any half way serious contribution beyond talk you are in the PEAR development community. Thats it. I am sure we can even squeeze out a PEAR dev account for a regular doc contributor. Its a bit harder to take over a package or getting a proposal in, but even there if you are serious you just need to lurk here for that orphaned package that is put up for grabs here. So while I dont quite know what you mean "I am not a developer". If that means you dont usually code then there is room for you in peardoc. If you just said that you are not a PEAR developer, then like I said its not that hard to become a member. If you are just here to tell us we are a closed gang of powertrippers, then you might be wasting our and your time. Finally this is opensource. Opensource is about free source. Its also about doing things, together. And most importantly its about feeling good about the code that develops under the fingertips of each of us involved. So while infinite ego padding might not be what we need, jumping to conclusions about this and that without taking the time to get a feel for the community is like to just end up in a lot of insults and misunderstandings. regards, Lukas