Re: [PHP4BETA] Help craft PHP description
| From: | Mark Nold | Date: | Sat, 13 May 2000 17:08:22 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [PHP4BETA] Help craft PHP description | ||
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hi,
Definitely any official description should focus on the application not the
technology... or preferable a two para description, one covering the
application and another covering the technology. The first should be fully
buzzword compliant so it gets your typical magazine manager excited, and
the second should be full of jargon to get your propeller heads going.
I know that many will spit on the idea, but has anybody thought of trying
to work out a marketing strategy for PHP? Other succesful languages (not
that PHP isn't) have all had at least a marketing strategy behind them.
Java got a big push in the early nineties, and Perl's creator had a
definate strategy to conquor the world with perl other than just making a
really good product.
I remember having clients asking why we didnt rewrite everything in Java in
the middle of sales presentations, and also my non IT literate friends
saying "Hey have you heard about this Java thing? Its pretty good isnt it."
Wouldn't it be fantastic if the first thing users/managers/clients said was
"Oh you just have to do that in PHP!". Unfortunatly that would not be the
results of PHP being the best language in the world, but the result of a
well thought out strategy to make "PHP the product" the best in the world.
mn
Mark Nold
markn@alverstone.com.au
Systems Consultant
Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
On Sunday, 14 May 2000 12:25, Michael Stearne [SMTP:mstearne@entermix.com]
wrote:
> I honestly think though that this would be a better description of what
PHP is
> then talking how to use it. I don't think telling about the syntax of
PHP (
> "..which borrows syntax from C/Perl/Java....") really matters in a
> description. People are more interested in if the product they are
looking at
> does the job they are looking to do. Who cares what the syntax is, you
can
> learn that, I think it should focus more on features.
>
> I've heard PHP descibed as an application server recently on Macromedia's
> UltraDev site:
> "Support for industry-standard application servers
>
> Build sites for robust industry servers such as Microsoft
IIS,
> Allaire ColdFusion, IBM WebSphere, BEA WebLogic, and
> Netscape Enterprise Server. Easily extend UltraDev to
> support other servers such as PHP and Tango.
> "
>
> Why not go this route?
>
> Michael
>
>
> Mark Nold wrote:
>
> > How about;
> >
> > PHP is a synergy of organisational data and customer information
delivery
> > system. It has extended the inline pre-processed paradigm and is now a
> > powerful metaphor for template enabled proactive development. PHP is
the
> > core solution in meeting challenges posed by increased adoption of ERP,
> > EAM, CRM and B2B E-Commerce. PHP is supported and developed by an
> > continually evolving international team that out performs traditional
> > bricks and morter IT companies in vision, delivery and support. PHP
will be
> > the key strategic component in your post Y2K business and technical
> > challenges.
> >
> > The scarey thing is that im not sure if im serious or not...
> >
> > mn
> >
> > Mark Nold
> > markn@alverstone.com.au
> > Systems Consultant
> >
> > Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
> >
> > On Saturday, 13 May 2000 12:35, R. P. Channing Rodgers, M.D.
> > [SMTP:rodgers@nlm.nih.gov] wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > The PHP 4 release is imminent [...]
> > > > [...] a new description is necessary. We've come up with a proposed
> > > > description, but we'd like to know if it can be made better [...]
> > >
> > > Andrei,
> > >
> > > With PHP 3, I would have wanted to add that the language was written
> > > in the spirit of "little languages" like awk, but simplicity in mind,
> > > but I'm not so sure that claim can be made any more with PHP4... 8^)
> > >
> > > How about:
> > >
> > > PHP is a simple but powerful cross-platform, general-purpose, open
> > > source scripting language. It can be used stand-alone, but is
> > > particularly well suited for Web development, and can be embedded
> > > within HTML. Its syntax borrows from C, Java, and Perl. It has
> > > commands providing for data manipulation, easy access to a number
of
> > > major databases, and important Internet protocols, and is
extensible
> > > via an API. It is widley used, and actively supported by a
talented
> > > and energetic international development and support team.
Numerous
> > > open source and commercial PHP-based application packages are
> > > available.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheerio, Rick Rodgers
> > >
> > >
> >
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