Re: We Want Quality

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Other projects can do it, so I don't see any reason why we > > > cannot. You might want to elaborate on this point. > > > > I don't have anything to elaborate on; Considering the number of PHP code > > contributors and the huge amount of different (and unrelated) pieces of > > code, it's simply not feasible to ask everybody to stop their development > > for a period of 1-2 weeks (allowing several days for RC's, and then > > freezing 5 days before the last RC and the release). > > I also don't see a 5 day freeze period as a big problem. With the way > we're developing now, we're bound to keep having the same screw-ups > we've been having. Why not be a little more disciplined? Just because > we're an OpenSource project doesn't mean that we can't adhere to a > schedule. Well, I do consider this not only a big problem, but something that's simply not doable. Moreover, I don't even consider this a positive thing. Releasing a patch level a day after the release is, in my opinion, much better than freezing development at different levels for a couple of weeks. Considering there were 2 such fuckups (a major one with gpc back then, and a minor one with the Windows CGI now) on more than 20 releases, I think our process is more than reasonable as a baseline. Considering nobody cared about the 4.0.0 release schedule, I find it surprising you say we can adhere to a schedule. We pretty much proved that we can't. Zeev -- Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> http://www.zend.com/