RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there)

Marcus, You saw my patch that works with "::" and doesn't break any scripts. Dmitry. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:helly@php.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:42 PM > To: Bob Silva > Cc: 'Christian Schneider'; 'PHP internals' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands > of apps out there) > > > Hello Bob, > > it is only awkward because you want to turn php into c++. > We are a different language here and thus can chose any > separator that works for us. And neither : nor :: work. > Instead from keeping us from working by having to explain > this over and over and over again i suggest you show me a > working patch that does not break trillions of php scripts. > > marcus > > Saturday, November 26, 2005, 3:36:42 AM, you wrote: > > > For what its worth (not much), I'd rather give up namespace > constants > > and use : rather than enforce whitespace which is just BAD from a > > language perspective. Makes it feel like programming in bash. The > > concept behind namespaces (in PHP at least) is rooted in OOP, so > > requiring a class just to have constants in your namespace > isn't too > > much to ask for. The parser should always be able to handle > > <namespace>:<class>::<whatever> and not conflict with other syntax. > > > If we are truly stuck with \ so be it, but I think > alternatives with > > some level of compromise should be considered before \ is settled > > upon. It's just plain awkward IMO. > > > > Bob Silva > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Christian Schneider [mailto:cschneid@cschneid.com] > >> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:42 PM > >> To: Marcus Boerger > >> Cc: PHP internals > >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break > tousands of apps > >> out > >> there) > >> > >> Marcus Boerger wrote: > >> > here again namespaces would be perfect. Given a lib > that doesn't > >> prefix > >> > you'd simply do: > >> > namespace LibNameHere { reqire "some_lib_include"; } > >> > and be done...wohooo :-) > >> > >> Only if newly introduced PHP core classes use a namespace > too. You'll > >> have to use PHP\Date (or the like) if you want to avoid > conflicts in > >> existing code. Plus maybe something like "import PHP\Date > as Date" or > >> something along these lines if you want to avoid PHP\ in newly > >> written code where you know that there is no Date class yet. > >> > >> PS: I'd rather have : for namespaces with the whitespace > restriction > >> for ? a:x : b:y than the confusing (escaping characters > outside of a > >> string?) backslash. > >> > >> - Chris > >> > >> -- > >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > Best regards, > Marcus > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >