Re: Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there)

Hello Greg, Saturday, November 26, 2005, 1:20:36 AM, you wrote: > Marcus Boerger wrote: >> Hello Helgi, >> >> obviously one problem is that PEAR does ignore coding standards. Classes >> should be prefixed in both pear and core. And neither Date nor File is in >> any way prefixed. In th end all we see here is that we want namespaces asap. > I absolutely agree with these points. It is also worth noting that the > coding standards of prefixing classes were introduced long after > packages like "Date" existed. We have a case of a userbase and a > shifting foundation that is PHP. > Perhaps the best future of PEAR is to design with those shifting sands > in mind as more of a primary design concern. There's plenty of time > before PHP 6, so we can get this taken care of by then, I think. > These are just preliminary thoughts, but it is imperative that all PEAR > classes be tested, and by inference testable, with PHP releases. > Anything that comes from .php.net should work with PHP, or at least be > given a chance to fix the problem before the release. This means a > tighter integration of PEAR developers and PHP internals, by no means an > easy task, as is shown by Pierre's tribulations over Date. > At the least, it would make sense to provide some kind of PEAR-related > RC cycle for PHP releases. I will see if I can shake up some ideas on > how to get PEAR more involved (at least better involved) in the PHP > release process over on pear-dev and report back. Very well said. I hope you can do something on the PEAR front. For the PHP front i am already working on some automatic testing. Once that's done we will look for a way to bring in PEAR tests into it as well. Best regards, Marcus