RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands of apps out there)

Hi Marcus, It worked. :) Even with nested classes. However it didn't care about "subnamespaces". I don't know what do you mean with it. Nested namespaces? Or complex namespace names like in Java (java.lang)? Thanks. Dmitry. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:helly@php.net] > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:15 PM > To: Dmitry Stogov > Cc: 'Bob Silva'; 'Christian Schneider'; 'PHP internals' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands > of apps out there) > > > Hello Dmitry, > > your patch wasn't complete. There are conflicts as soon as > you have subnamespaces or constsants. > > marcus > > Monday, November 28, 2005, 9:27:19 AM, you wrote: > > > Marcus, > > > You saw my patch that works with "::" and doesn't break any scripts. > > > Dmitry. > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:helly@php.net] > >> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:42 PM > >> To: Bob Silva > >> Cc: 'Christian Schneider'; 'PHP internals' > >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break tousands > >> of apps out there) > >> > >> > >> Hello Bob, > >> > >> it is only awkward because you want to turn php into c++. > >> We are a different language here and thus can chose any > >> separator that works for us. And neither : nor :: work. > >> Instead from keeping us from working by having to explain > >> this over and over and over again i suggest you show me a > >> working patch that does not break trillions of php scripts. > >> > >> marcus > >> > >> Saturday, November 26, 2005, 3:36:42 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> > For what its worth (not much), I'd rather give up namespace > >> constants > >> > and use : rather than enforce whitespace which is just BAD from a > >> > language perspective. Makes it feel like programming in > bash. The > >> > concept behind namespaces (in PHP at least) is rooted in OOP, so > >> > requiring a class just to have constants in your namespace > >> isn't too > >> > much to ask for. The parser should always be able to handle > >> > <namespace>:<class>::<whatever> and not conflict with > other syntax. > >> > >> > If we are truly stuck with \ so be it, but I think > >> alternatives with > >> > some level of compromise should be considered before \ is settled > >> > upon. It's just plain awkward IMO. > >> > >> > >> > Bob Silva > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Christian Schneider [mailto:cschneid@cschneid.com] > >> >> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:42 PM > >> >> To: Marcus Boerger > >> >> Cc: PHP internals > >> >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.1 (Or How to break > >> tousands of apps > >> >> out > >> >> there) > >> >> > >> >> Marcus Boerger wrote: > >> >> > here again namespaces would be perfect. Given a lib > >> that doesn't > >> >> prefix > >> >> > you'd simply do: > >> >> > namespace LibNameHere { reqire "some_lib_include"; } and be > >> >> > done...wohooo :-) > >> >> > >> >> Only if newly introduced PHP core classes use a namespace > >> too. You'll > >> >> have to use PHP\Date (or the like) if you want to avoid > >> conflicts in > >> >> existing code. Plus maybe something like "import PHP\Date > >> as Date" or > >> >> something along these lines if you want to avoid PHP\ in newly > >> >> written code where you know that there is no Date class yet. > >> >> > >> >> PS: I'd rather have : for namespaces with the whitespace > >> restriction > >> >> for ? a:x : b:y than the confusing (escaping characters > >> outside of a > >> >> string?) backslash. > >> >> > >> >> - Chris > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > >> >> To unsubscribe, visit: > >> >> http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Marcus > >> > >> -- > >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > >> > > > > > Best regards, > Marcus > >