Re: Re: PEAR::Date broken (Was: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_2) /ext/date php_date.c php_date.h)

Steph Fox wrote:

Do we really like it in 5.2?

It was originally on the 5_2 TODO.

Where? Never seen it. Heard Derick lie to people about it a few times.

Yes, as we finally need the date support that has been ready for 8 months now. Waiting any longer doesn't make sense either.

We do not need to break gazzillions of applications out there.

What gazzillions of applications are going to get broken? Can you name one outside PEAR? And FWIW I think Pierre should've renamed the PEAR class when it first became clear there was going to be a clash there, it was obvious we were going to see all the same arguments over again as soon as the datetime functions were complete.

Try searching for php date class in your favorite search engine. This was never in any release, and was in CVS for a few days. And we did hear a lot of complains about it.

I told Derick this was the case, but he decided to ignore it. I am really tired of having to waste energy on such obvious matters and to have to put up with such attitude: "I'll sneak this in while nobody is looking".

AFAICR the reason it was taken off the public TODO was purely to prevent WW4 breaking out on the spot. I expect Derick (and probably Ilia) had similar feelings about it now.

You are wrong. I have not heard one sane person argue that class named Date should be added just like that to the language. Without even a mention on internals. Edin