Re: 5.4 again

> > > so the problem is, that the userland is under-represented in the > development, because they usually not present on the mailing list and on > irc, where discussions and decisions happen, and they usually have > different > priorities and expectations about the PHP language than the core devs. > to make things worse, they cannot write patches for the core, and the core > devs rarely work on something which they don't particularly need or like. > > and I think that the only option where we can change that, is that us, the > php userland devs has to be more active on the mailing lists, irc, bug > tracking, writing RFCs etc. > Why not open a Google Groups list?, having every message recorded publicly and being easy to join-in I'd bet that the situation would change. I've seen it work really well for other open source projects, such as Joomla and Symfony. Regards, David Vega