Re: 5.4 again

I think an idea of an alpha right away is a good one. I feel we definitely have enough "stuff" in HEAD branch right now for 5.4 +/- few minor changes. It should also be a good boost to getting people on track that 5.4 is a go. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Stas Malyshev [mailto:smalyshev@sugarcrm.com] >>Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:41 PM >>To: PHP Internals >>Subject: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again >> >>Hi! >> >>I would like to propose the following process (of course, dates can be moved >>around, etc. - I consider phase lengths be more important that actual dates, but >>any of them can be shifted if reason arises) for 5.4: >> >>- starting now - nominate features for 5.4 (see >>https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54), >>discussion on them >>- May 18 - start voting and debating on features that have no clear consensus >>support immediately. On the end of May is also phptek, so we could have some >>discussion there about it if needed. >>- June 15 (a bit more than a month) - alpha, branching of 5_4, open only for >>bugfixes and features in TODO list that are approved and can be done by beta >>time. >>- July 20 - beta, bugfixes only (if we add a lot of features, we may want to insert >>another 1-month alpha period, so far it doesn't look like it but may change) >>- Aug 24 - RC1, then an RC every 2 weeks until stable >>- Release - somewhere in October or November, depending on the RCs. >> >>I think we need to start moving. Not much is happening in 5.4 now as far as I can >>see, and we have a good feature set that is long due to be released. > > Stas, in the past we had alphas. Is there any reason why we wouldn't roll one out asap? > (revert the typehints stuff and go). > > I think we (almost) all agree that we need to start pushing PHP 5.4 with all the goodness that > has been developed "to-date". Additional features can wait for the next version. > Any exceptions that are low risk can be evaluated (an additional minor API, some additional > enhancements) but let's get the good work that has been done to-date out there vs. allowing > feature creep and pushing the timeline for another 1-2 years. I think we should start pushing out > alpha in parallel to these discussions. Most of them sound like major features which would not make > PHP 5.4 as any major feature requires plenty of time to mature (and needless to say some of them > won't even be accepted). > > There is plenty to get excited about in PHP 5.4! > > Andi (sending in plaintext. Hope this gets rid of the funky newlines from prior emails) > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >