Re: 5.4 again

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:28 PM, dukeofgaming <dukeofgaming@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >>> so the problem is, that the userland is under-represented in the >>> development, because they usually not present on the mailing list and on >>> irc, where discussions and decisions happen, and they usually have >>> different >>> priorities and expectations about the PHP language than the core devs. >>> to make things worse, they cannot write patches for the core, and the >>> core >>> devs rarely work on something which they don't particularly need or like. >>> >>> and I think that the only option where we can change that, is that us, >>> the >>> php userland devs has to be more active on the mailing lists, irc, bug >>> tracking, writing RFCs etc. >>> >> >> Why not open a Google Groups list?, having every message recorded publicly >> and being easy to join-in I'd bet that the situation would change. I've seen >> it work really well for other open source projects, such as Joomla and >> Symfony. >> >> > you can already do that through http://marc.info/?l=php-internals�e�+SK׬񥓁� >  or the > newsgroup, see http://php.net/mailing-lists.php > albeit google groups is better imho > > Tyrael > Yeah, I forgot to mention that everything is threaded there, so its easier to follow. Regards, David Vega