Re: PHPDBG nonsense (Was: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Made phpdbg compatible with new engine: ...)

On 29/10/2014, at 12:43 AM, Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:27 PM, David Soria Parra <dsp@php.net> wrote: >> On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>: >>>> >>>> On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote: >>>>> Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp for it.. >>>>> They just initially requested it because they didn’t knew any better >>>>> protocol. That’s all. >>>> >>>> PHPStorm like PHP-FIG have their own agendas which do not play well with >>>> other groups of developers. Just because one thinks an idea is good does >>>> not mean that everybody else has to adopt it. So what becomes 'main >>>> stream' has to have common consensus and the voting rules provide that. >>>> >>>> When was the vote on this rework taken? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lester Caine - G8HFL >>>> ----------------------------- >>>> Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact >>>> L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk >>>> EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ >>>> Model Engineers Digital Workshop - >>>> http://medw.co.uk >>>> Rainbow Digital Media - >>>> http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk >>> >>> There wasn’t any vote and there won’t. >>> >>> /dev/null likes to listen to your complaints why we should have voted on it. >> >> step back a bit here, stay professional, there is no need for passive >> aggressiveness. >>> >>> But now it’s in, let’s rather try to improve what’s there than screaming for a >>> vote - it won’t help anyone and hinder possible work on improving the current thing. >> >> From what I see, the complan is about the initial protocol and not about >> how to improve it or not. This whole protocol business needed an RFC, >> which I haven't seen. So we should come up with a good way of deciding >> which protocol to use and how to implement it. Before this, I would strongly >> vote to not incldue the current verison in PHP 7 at all. Also let me point >> out that the code belogns to everyone and everyone will have to deal with it >> so we better make an informed decision now. > > Hello people. > > When PHP 5.6 has been released, few weeks/months ago, I explicitely > stated Ferenc (RMing 5.6 together with me), that *it is not a normal > thing to have an external domain for phpdbg* > > This has never happened before, FWIR FYI, PHP-FPM still has a separate website. Cheers, > David