Re: PHP/Linux v.s. PHP/Windows

Would the most important factor for shops not to convert from a IIS, SQL Server , NT , ASP environment to a Linux, MySQL , Perl, PHP, Apache solution be the Mysql database is not fully transactional. It seems that for the long term this would be a superior course than trying to get PHP and other nicer development tools that run better on Linux to work on NT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank M. Kromann <fmk@swwwing.com> To: <michael@tapinternet.com> Cc: PHP Mailing List <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Linux v.s. PHP/Windows > >PHP on Apache with Windows was something I could never get working. I scoured > >newsgroups and discussion boards - no clear configuration instructions were ever > >found. No clear troubleshooting instructions were ever found. I'm not a dummy - I've > > I would be happy to help you out, I'm using PHP3, PHP4 (CGI and ISAPI on IIS). > > >been programming longer than I care to remember, but I couldn't get it working properly. > > >PHP on NT as CGI is just not ready for *any* type of work I need to do - > >moderately heavy loads, etc. Yes, it'll work, but when a client has spent > >$ on NT, I can't look them square in the eye and say - 'use this - it's 40% slower'. > > What i Heavy load ? I have a 35.000 user installetion running Intrant on a clustered NT server using PHP3, NO performence problems at all ! > > > > >PHP on NT as ISAPI - flat out doesn't work for me. People on NT generally aren't going to use > >MySQL. I'm sure loads of people will tell me it works just fine, but my experiences > >have been people who have already shelled out for NT are using SQL server or > >Access (slow, but it works for them). > > I happen to have written the MS SQL support for both PHP3 and PHP4 and I'm using that module every day. It is true that the first versions had some problems when used with ISAPI, but to my knowledge all these have been solved. Most of the problems was caused by the ISAPI module though. > > Still I would not recomend the USE of ISAPI for production sites. Use the much more stable CGI version, but that has nothing to do with the modules (at least the thread safe) > > > > >I posted messages asking for PHP MSSQL drivers - there are some, but they don't > >ever work for me for more than about 5 seconds. 'Access violations'. People > >post this in the mailing lists, and there's never a satisfactory resolution beyond > >'use CGI mode'. > > > >I realize NT isn't an easy platform to code for - all the more reason why I say > >PHP on NT isn't ready for prime time use. If you get it to work, that's great, > >but Frank, you're obviously a technical enough guy to be writing > >modules for this - I certainly can't, and I don't think most people using PHP > >(on any platform) have that kind of skill or time to devote to getting it up and > >running. > > In my opinion it is no more difficult to develop for NT rather than developing for Linux or Unix. Developing for mulit threaded environments is more dificult, and I'm sure you will see the same troubles when you start to write applications for Apache 2.0 running as a multithreaded server ! > > > > >Back this summer I had a couple other people writing to me (found me > >in the list archives) asking if I'd got PHP to run as ISAPI talking to MSSQL > >*stably*. They hadn't either, and were extremely frustrated. > > The sites I have running on PHP4, ISAPI with the current version of the MSSQL module does not give me any problems. There migth be problems but I dont know about them. > > >This sounds really negative, I know - I don't mean it to be. I sorely > >needed PHP to run on NT - I was willing to pay for support services myself, > >but there seems to be a distinct lack of support for PHP on Windows. > > Just telle me what you need and I'll help you as much as I can. > > - Frank > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >