Re: PHP/Linux v.s. PHP/Windows

Why would you even bother with NT if Linux is a better OS?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul O'Neil" <pjoneil@email.uophx.edu> To: <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Linux v.s. PHP/Windows > Would the most important factor for shops not to convert from a IIS, SQL > Server , NT , ASP environment to a Linux, MySQL , Perl, PHP, Apache solution > be the Mysql database is not fully transactional. It seems that for the long > term this would be a superior course than trying to get PHP and other nicer > development tools that run better on Linux to work on NT. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frank M. Kromann <fmk@swwwing.com> > To: <michael@tapinternet.com> > Cc: PHP Mailing List <php-general@lists.php.net> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Linux v.s. PHP/Windows > > > > >PHP on Apache with Windows was something I could never get working. I > scoured > > >newsgroups and discussion boards - no clear configuration instructions > were ever > > >found. No clear troubleshooting instructions were ever found. I'm not a > dummy - I've > > > > I would be happy to help you out, I'm using PHP3, PHP4 (CGI and ISAPI on > IIS). > > > > >been programming longer than I care to remember, but I couldn't get it > working properly. > > > > >PHP on NT as CGI is just not ready for *any* type of work I need to do - > > >moderately heavy loads, etc. Yes, it'll work, but when a client has > spent > > >$ on NT, I can't look them square in the eye and say - 'use this - it's > 40% slower'. > > > > What i Heavy load ? I have a 35.000 user installetion running Intrant on a > clustered NT server using PHP3, NO performence problems at all ! > > > > > > > >PHP on NT as ISAPI - flat out doesn't work for me. People on NT > generally aren't going to use > > >MySQL. I'm sure loads of people will tell me it works just fine, but my > experiences > > >have been people who have already shelled out for NT are using SQL server > or > > >Access (slow, but it works for them). > > > > I happen to have written the MS SQL support for both PHP3 and PHP4 and I'm > using that module every day. It is true that the first versions had some > problems when used with ISAPI, but to my knowledge all these have been > solved. Most of the problems was caused by the ISAPI module though. > > > > Still I would not recomend the USE of ISAPI for production sites. Use the > much more stable CGI version, but that has nothing to do with the modules > (at least the thread safe) > > > > > > > >I posted messages asking for PHP MSSQL drivers - there are some, but they > don't > > >ever work for me for more than about 5 seconds. 'Access violations'. > People > > >post this in the mailing lists, and there's never a satisfactory > resolution beyond > > >'use CGI mode'. > > > > > >I realize NT isn't an easy platform to code for - all the more reason why > I say > > >PHP on NT isn't ready for prime time use. If you get it to work, that's > great, > > >but Frank, you're obviously a technical enough guy to be writing > > >modules for this - I certainly can't, and I don't think most people using > PHP > > >(on any platform) have that kind of skill or time to devote to getting it > up and > > >running. > > > > In my opinion it is no more difficult to develop for NT rather than > developing for Linux or Unix. Developing for mulit threaded environments is > more dificult, and I'm sure you will see the same troubles when you start to > write applications for Apache 2.0 running as a multithreaded server ! > > > > > > > >Back this summer I had a couple other people writing to me (found me > > >in the list archives) asking if I'd got PHP to run as ISAPI talking to > MSSQL > > >*stably*. They hadn't either, and were extremely frustrated. > > > > The sites I have running on PHP4, ISAPI with the current version of the > MSSQL module does not give me any problems. There migth be problems but I > dont know about them. > > > > >This sounds really negative, I know - I don't mean it to be. I sorely > > >needed PHP to run on NT - I was willing to pay for support services > myself, > > >but there seems to be a distinct lack of support for PHP on Windows. > > > > Just telle me what you need and I'll help you as much as I can. > > > > - Frank > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >