RE: [PHP-GTK] what is going on with gtk.php.net?

Hi Joel, That 'inability to search for functions' part is actually completely wrong, I implemented that well over a year ago. I'll admit it's not wonderful, but it's definitely there! The wiki is hosted by Manuel Kiessling, I will forward your comments to him if he doesn't pick up on them via the list. But you'll probably find that he is also working long hours and unable to commit a great deal of his time to php.net work at present. I know it's difficult for developers on the other side of the fence to comprehend, but everything on php.net relies on the goodwill, spare time and willingness of those involved to drop everything else for it. That includes websites, documentation, software development and even the underlying server administration. On a big project (like PHP itself) there are a lot of people involved in keeping things ticking over, and perhaps 30 or so who give up their entire social life to its needs. On a small project (like PHP-GTK), you need to divide that dedicated manpower by 10 or more - and you also need to keep in mind that the development side of this particular project relies on two other OSS components being in a useful and stable state. There's no mention of PHP 5 at all on the PHP-GTK site for the very good reason that the PHP-GTK project doesn't use it yet! (There were early experiments, but they were dropped because Zend Engine 2's development hadn't stablized enough to work with it reliably at that point in time; there was never a release at that point.) There is, however, plenty of mention of PHP 5 in the SEARCHABLE list archives (via gtk.php.net), mostly from people asking when will PHP-GTK 2 come out. Given that PHP 5.0.0 is not quite 48 hours old at this moment in time - 'nuff said I think. You can't build with blocks that aren't even hardened yet. Back to work.. - Steph > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel De Gan [mailto:joeldg@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 July 2004 19:19 > To: php-gtk-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-GTK] what is going on with gtk.php.net? > > > First, The wiki is totally spammed... > http://wiki.gtk.php.net/ > > No mention of PHP5. At all.. > > I wrote more on this here: > http://blog.peoplesdns.com/node/view/16 > > In particular no full site search... nothing.. > > Actually had a junior programmer tell me this morning the reason he > "couldn't" use php-gtk was because of the "... sad state of the PHPGTK > website and inability to search for functions, plus nothing but links > to porn in the wiki so I don't want to waste time working on something > that is not maintained." > > Kind of frustrating when people are dismissing the entire project > like that. > They see my tutorials ( http://lucifer.intercosmos.net/phpgtk/ > and > http://lucifer.intercosmos.net/tut/ ) and then send me these > emails.. > > Figured I would pass on the info. > -joeldg > > -- > PHP-GTK General Mailing List (http://gtk.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >