Re: [PHP3] SOAP and BizTalk

Derek Neighbors wrote: > > personally anti), and Dave Winer (who is a egotist jackass extraordinaire), it > > makes a lot of sense, and is going to be fairly widely supported (I believe the > > folks at Digital Creations are going to do so). > > I will just say proprietary software is widely supported. So do you > propose that PHP become completely proprietary so you can give them a nice > $1000 a seat license fee and lose your ability to look under the hood? > Huh? You can sell support for free software with it being propreitary, I don't get that. > > Free software is not about being popular or being widely supported its > about being free. But, in order for a culture change to occur free software has to be popular and widely supported. Free software's acceptance depends on it's being supported. Linuxcare, Redhat Support, etc. > If you think SOAP is not influence by Microsoft, IBM > and the other propogating it think again. :) Why I dont dismiss it as a > joke or even useful, I will say having an open source project of this size > support it sends the wrong message. > If this was just developed by MS, I would be more hesiatant, but since IBM is in there too, I would be more inclined to at least support it. I am not saying turn PHP into a SOAP compliant product or whatever they will call it. I realize IBM's involvement might be more of a backlash against Sun because of IBM's problems with Java Licenses. If this is the case IBM will eventually drop support for SOAP when it makes up with Sun. Then MS would be alone again and I don't believe MS can push a Web standard by itself anymore. Michael