RE: [PHP-DEV] SOAP and BizTalk
| From: | Fredrik Larsson | Date: | Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:04:07 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP-DEV] SOAP and BizTalk | ||
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>> - SOAP is definately slower than any other method e g EJB and Corba. But
>> speed is becoming a less problem as we continue to grow older...
>
>Thats a very Microsoft way of looking at things. The cpu's fast enough, so
>we can be sloppy.
Yes it is. But don't forget who is paying our bills. What do your think your
customer rather would pay for? $1000 for a fast device or $10000 for your
consulting hours? Do remember that we are expensive. Hardware is cheap...
>I do not see SOAP being more flexable then CORBA.
Don't CORBA require a dedicated ORB?
>CORBA has allowed windows, dos, unix, macos, whatever to communicate for
>along time. SOAP is new to that. And, taken all previous actions of MS
>into account, they have allways taken a stance of INcompatability, not
>compatability. Ask yourself why then is MS suddenly pushing a "compatable"
>protocol.
Microsoft isn't alone on this one. Sun, IBM and more a behind this. The SOAP
mailinglist is supposed to have about 1000 developers in it. Not all of them
are MS-fans. But they are there to make a difference and they do. If I am
correct the SOAP specification is proposed as a standard (IETF I think) and
that means a bit out of MS hands. It's clear that you like CORBA very much
and for very good reasons to. The more tools we have at our hands the more
important it is.
>> - Will SOAP be successful? Well, what are the most common used ORB in the
>> world? Apache and IIS last time I checked...
>
>HAHAHAHA. Apache and IIS are NOT ORBs.
They aren't? Well... I create a PHP script that has an object that calculate
something. My client application then call the webserver and request the
result of the calculation. Doesn't that make the webserver (Apache and IIS)
the ORB?
Anyway the orginal point for this thread was about SOAP support in PHP and I
personally vote for it since I like them both.