Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Ashley Sheridan <ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:00 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > >> jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved >> by a sql solution. >> imo, they're NOT. example? any realtime system with real work to do. >> >> please stop pretending you know the proper design of all software that >> is made or yet has to be made. >> both a ya. >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote: >> > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> >> >> and btw, complexity of design can go up considerably when you have to >> >> deal with more than 1 php and 1 mysql server, because the language >> >> forces inefficient constructs _and_ is "stuck on 1 server".... >> > >> > Switch to a real database? >> > MySQL still needs to grow up as well :) >> > >> > -- >> > Lester Caine - G8HFL >> > ----------------------------- >> > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact >> > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk >> > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ >> > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// >> > Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php >> > >> > -- >> > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > >> > >> > > > But aren't you doing exactly that by saying that PHP needs threading and > that threading is the only way to achieve certain goals. I've watched > this thread go on quite a bit, and haven't seen a really good argument > that proves PHP needs threading when it can't be solved without it. PHP > is PHP. If it behaved exactly the same as all the other languages, what > would make it distinct against those others. One of it's main strenghts > is its simplicity I feel. If you added threading to the bag of tricks it > already has, you're getting into areas that make it more difficult to > pick up for beginners (and that's not to mention the technical elements > involved in actually adding threading to PHP) Currently the only other > 'easy' language I know for beginners is ColdFusion, and that's just > horrible. You wouldn't want to be responsible for sending the newbies > down that path would you?! :p > > Thanks, > Ash > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk > That's why I gave an analogy of AJAX earlier. You use AJAX yourself. Do you use it for every project? Would you recommend AJAX to newbies? When you do use AJAX, there is a slight difference in your app design then when you don't use AJAX. That's the way I see threads. It's not for every body nor for every project. But it would be great if it's there when the need/requirement arises. And yes, coldfusion should be phased out long ago...