Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 25 March 2010 20:09, Tommy Pham <tommyhp2@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Peter Lind <peter.e.lind@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 25 March 2010 19:37, Tommy Pham <tommyhp2@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote: >>>> Tommy Pham wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote: >>>>>>> * If you could implement threads and run those same queries in 2+ >>>>>>> threads, the total time saved from queries execution is 1/2 sec or >>>>>>> more, which is pass along as the total response time reduced.  Is it >>>>>>> worth it for you implement threads if you're a speed freak? >>>>>> >>>>>> Use mysqlnd - asynchronous mysql queries. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're assuming that everyone in the PHP world uses MySQL 4.1 or >>>>> newer.  What about those who don't? >>>> >>>> They don't get to use threading, nor asynchronous mysql queries. >>>> >>>> Come on, you're asking about a future feature in PHP 7.x , but would >>>> like to support someone who is seriously backlevel on mysql?? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Per Jessen, Zürich (16.9°C) >>>> >>> >>> I'm not talking about MySQL 4.0 or older.  I'm talking about other >>> RDBMS.  I think you should open your eyes a bit wider and take a look >>> at the bigger picture (Firebird, MSSQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL, etc). >> >> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.pg-send-query.php >> >> Looks to me like the PHP postgresql library already handles that. Not >> to mention: you're not presenting an argument for threads, you're >> presenting an argument for implementing asynchronous queries in the >> other DBMS libraries. >> >> Of course, the problem could also be solved by introducing threads in >> PHP. I'd personally guess modifying DBMS libraries would be less >> costly, but as I haven't been involved in writing the PHP code my >> guess isn't worth much. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> > > I'm presenting the argument for threading.  Per is presenting the work > around using asynchronous queries via mysqlnd.  I did read that link a > few days ago, "Although the user can send multiple queries at once, > multiple queries cannot be sent over a busy connection. If a query is > sent while the connection is busy, it waits until the last query is > finished and discards all its results."  Which sounds like threads -> > multiple connections to not run into that problem. > Have you looked into what it would cost in development to improve the library? Have you compared that to the cost in development to introduce threads into PHP? No, I don't think you're presenting the argument for threading - but I don't expect you to see it that way. -- <hype> WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fake51 BeWelcome: Fake51 Couchsurfing: Fake51 </hype>