Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

again; i have neither the expertise ready, nor the time nor the money atm, to implement it myself. i'm hoping the php-dev team will agree with me that scalability of php driven apps should be put on the agenda. threading and shared memory are only a part of that discussion.. i'm opening a new thread to discuss this wider issue. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Daniel Egeberg <degeberg@php.net> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:27, Rene Veerman <rene7705@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Stuart Dallas >>> I find it curious and amusing that you think the lack of threading support means PHP is >>> somehow living in the dark ages. But yeah, complaining that the FREE tool you've CHOSEN to use >>> doesn't support the feature YOU want... yeah, that's the way to go. >>> >> >> a) i'm not the only 1 who wants that feature, or would appreciate it >> when it's made available. >> >> b) to me it's a matter of keeping php attuned with the market trends. >> this thread forces me to reconsider my choice of language, because i >> do code to maybe get as big as facebook one day. >> it really really helps to have my codebase in a simple language like >> php, and yet be able to build blackboxes in that language that do >> threading and use shared memory.. >> imo, it saves significant time (money) and headaches (risk) when >> growing from 1 server to thousands of servers. > > If you believe you have the chance of becoming as big as Facebook and > that you would save loads of money by having PHP support > multi-threading, what's preventing you from hiring people to add that > to PHP? You can complain all you want, but even with the most > compelling reasons in the world it will not be done if there is not > enough manpower to do it. > > I'm not even sure why you are complaining about this on the general > list. Why don't you write an RFC and send it to internals for > discussion? I'm sure someone would be happy to give you write access > to the rfc namespace on the wiki if you sign up for an account there. > > Seeing as it's apparently so crucial to the operation of your > business, I don't think it's unreasonable that you commit some > resources to it. I don't think anyone is *against* that PHP supports > multi-threading. I think people are against having multi-threading if > it will stall other development in the PHP core. It's not like you can > implement it just like that. There is just a limit on how much that > can be done with the resources that are available. > > -- > Daniel Egeberg >