Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 3/24/10 2:33 PM, Rene Veerman wrote:

It's a debate. The dev team consider proposals and weigh in on the merits. I was a proponent for goto support during the development of PHP 5. We now have it. If you arguments are valid and there's no technical issue preventing it, and there's someone with time and skill to created the functionality, then it will happen. If not then it won't. I've seen many things added to PHP and I've watched and participated in the threads on internals that have lead to many new features. This is open source, opinions matter, but personal attacks and poor argument do not really make the cut.

hahaha... you dismiss what i believe to be valid explanations without any counter-argument besides "more sql hardware!", not just by me but by all advocates of threading&shared memory in php. for some reason, which is still not clear to me, you nay-sayers refuse to let a PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE (not a "hammer", not a "fishing boat") evolve to stay useful, relevant even, in a changing market. and you're blatantly telling me to use a different kind of "hammer", one that would force me to rewrite large sections of my existing code-base, and one that i have told you i would find for many other _valid_ reasons not optimal.

And what you seem to be missing is that making PHP userspace threaded is such a major change to the underlying code base and architecture that it would essentially be a total and complete rewrite, and would require people to rewrite large portions of their existing PHP userspace code. So it's either you adjust your code to fit the paradigm that PHP is built for from the ground up, or the entire rest of the world adjusts its code to fit the paradigm that you think you want to have.

basically, you're determining my choice of options without me ever having forced you to do something a certain way.. so you'll have to excuse my strong language. it's just letting you know that you shouldn't butt into other peoples business when it doesn't really affect you.

Except having to rewrite all of my code to be thread safe would affect me. If you didn't want to have a discussion, which by nature has differing view points, you shouldn't be on a discussion list. --Larry Garfield