Re: Package proposal misuse?

Hi, I think the management of proposals is the central point to the survival of PEAR. And I saw this flame war start over and over in this ML the last year. No solution at all, just words in the wind. On one side we have the 'OMC' people saying 'just the rich people must decide!' on the other the Seatle people yelling 'everyone must decide!'. During this time a saw a lot of proposals (one mine also) just fade way without coments, with one or two +1's, etc. But no concluding status. We are nor denyed or accepted. The main problem i think is that OMC x Seatle thing. I have seen lots of "no one voting" most of the time. I personally, when see a proposal, ask myself should i vote or shouldnt? That isnt right. Someone have to decide, or no one will. Maybe a group of developers should should step forward or be choosen to do some pre-vote/analysis of the package. Then the package should be but on the "every one can vote" PAGE, so people can have their space too. I really think is about time to organize this issue. S.Rocha PS.: I know there is something about proposal rules at the PEAR site, but looks like no one is reading/agreeing with it. > > people who fall into the $DEVELOPERS category, there is more then enough > > opinions & points of view to determine the merits of package exclusion or > > inclusion. Inviting anyone from the street to make such decisions is a bad > > > idea. You would have no reflection on the person level of competence, which > > > you could determine about a $DEVELOPER by looking at their code and prior > > communication(s) to the list. You also have no guarantee that people voting > > > are in fact distinct users, a person with multiple e-mail addresses, ips > > could easily trick the system. > > A compromise of sorts would be to allow anyone to comment on the package. > > Which may bring up previously unconsidered benefits and downsides of a > > particular package. However, the final vote of the merits of the package > > should be up to $DEVELOPERS and $GROUP (PEAR Group). Personally, I'd be > much > > happier if package acceptance decisions were $GROUP only, but that's > probably > > impractical. > > > > Ilia > > > > *sigh* > > I find it hard to believe that 503 PEAR-DEVs can decide accurately what > millions of people want. Also bring into the fact that theres maybe 50 > people who ever actually vote on the ML, this just doesn't sit right > with me. > > Ultimately, yes, the PEAR-DEVs/PEAR-GROUP should say what goes in and > out, but the public should have their say, perhaps it'll make the DEVs > go "wow, actually, I was wrong, people love this, perhaps it should be +1" > > I'm only trying to make sure that the devs are not some sort of deity > figure. The public is what makes PEAR, without anyone to actually use > the scripts and promote their use etc, we may aswell not have it. > > - Davey > > > -- > PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/