Re: [binarycloud-dev] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [metabase-dev] MDB news

> You apparently have never raised children ;) hehehe. well put. he will be soon, he had a beautiful little kid a while ago. :) course I can't claim crap, I'm 22. I have no kids... but I like them! anyway: I agree with manuel that it is best for those undertaking decisions about the "core" of metabase/MDB to have experience with many DBMSs from converting drivers. I think it's an important point, because people make assumptions that are wrong without having been through all the crap. The _reason_ metabase is so completely solid I think is directly related to the breadth of manuel's experience with DMBS systems. He makes no assumptions because he knows already. However, I do believe that the code - if carefully "converted" to MDB - would benefit from a second look and application of standard formatting. Not only because the code will become open and self documenting, but also because it will allow the "converting" developer to make updates to the code which are significant in light of PHP4 and especially ZE2. In binarycloud, we have already begun to consider ZE2 and are actually in the process of changing our Error system to an exception system, and... uh... ditching the fairly bloated PEAR overhead for every page render in the process. Manuel I think is a bit angry about his treatment by PEAR, and I'm sure that is in some ways justified though I am not close to the issue. What I do know - regardless of what you think of Manuel (I like him, stubborn as he is) - he knows his shit backwards, forwards, and upside-down. He's been there, done that. Worth a listen at least. In any case, I see MDB's future as a bright one, and Lukas et al - you have our (binarycloud's) full support. In fact I think it is the most significant project begun under the auspices of PEAR. As soon as we think the system is ready, we'll switch. And you'll find I'm sure that after the switch takes place, you'll get a lot of contributions from binarycloud people using the system in production. And, on that note - we're close to (ha ha re: recent talk of version numbers): "binarycloud r2 RC1" which will be our first r2 LGPL release. best, _alex