RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

Acer, what the f****k are you mumbling about? (sorry for mine to you introduction) 600 people at PHP Dev Group (and I am one of them too) create and document PHP Programming Language for free, because they like it this way. You, get your boss's money, buy a Zend's encoder, make a script that, perhaps, has an equivalent freely available on sourseforge.net, encode it and stick a it price to then sell the "cat in a lot" to those paranoids who do not trust open source projects like your own boss does. The "paranoids" then make services we all here pay, and on our spare time - we keep developing the free code for you (always, because we like it this way). What are you trying to prove by being devil's lawyer here? We all know how e-business works, most of us are actually on managing positions if not job consultants. So, Acer, from now on - ask a php-general question or answer one. Deal? Sincerely, Maxim Maletsky PHP Beginner www.phpbeginner.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Acer [mailto:internetracer@yifan.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:01 AM > To: Rasmus Lerdorf > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > Okay so you support zend but hate encoders. Doesn't zend make an encoder? > To me an encoder is used to sell your product. It doesn't mean people > still > won't release their code to add to the public knowledge. > > If you didn't release your code rasmus then those 600 people won't have > made > php what it is now so you can't have it both ways. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@php.net] > Sent: August 3, 2002 2:06 PM > To: Acer > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > > Because it is a silly thread and I shouldn't be replying at all. Others > in the group either have more sense or have given up on answering > php-general questions. > > My view on encoders is that they are unnecessary and rather evil. I would > never ever purchase a php-based application that did not come with the php > source code. If you want to restrict your code somehow, do it through a > license. People who choose to violate that license are the same people > who will hack your encoded scripts anyway. And this way the honest > customers will have the benefit of the code to customize, learn from, > build on top of. Closed source stuff stifles innovation and I personally > refuse to work on a PHP encoder for this reason. Imagine if I had never > released the source for PHP? We would not be having this discussion > today. > > I know plenty of people disagree with this view, but there you have it. > > -Rasmus > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Acer wrote: > > > I made that statement because this subject has been brought up several > times > > and nothing has been said from the php gods. I mean out of this whole > > thread, your only comment is "That's probably the most uninformed > statement > > I have seen posted to this list in a very long time." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@php.net] > > Sent: August 3, 2002 1:04 PM > > To: Acer > > Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; php-general@lists.php.net > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding > > > > > > > You'll never hear anything from the core php group since they are a > tight > > > click so it's business as usual. > > > > That's probably the most uninformed statement I have seen posted to this > > list in a very long time. > > > > -Rasmus > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php