RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

> That is fine for me, but if their prices are high why you promoting > their business against free alternatives? That is the key point of this > thread and why Zend was brought into the discussion. > Fine with me too - let's make this the point of this discussion. > Anyway, Zend is not doing intentionally many things that I think they > should do. So, I really do not have to simpathize with their decisions. So, I guess we all need to ask Zeev for the reason why can't those extensions be added to PHP distributions. > That is even more stupid because basically you are killing the messenger > just because he did not bring you only the good news . Many of his ideas > are plain right regardless how he may have exposed them. Maybe some ideas made sense, but many were senseless. The main reason he gained our antipathy was how he expressed himself. > It seems that some people just feel that the only right thing to do is > to s*ck for Zend and do not want to admit any criticisms. And you seem to be following Acer's example in the preceding line... Zend is a company that supports PHP commercially and, we definitely have no reasons to s*ck for Zend. > Why do you think that will happen? Because this thread tries to make it happen right now. Evolution, Manuel. > I don't have a problem with Zend business as long as they don't stand in > front of PHP development. PHP needs free caching and compiling > alternatives because not everybody can afford Zend prices. While that > does not happen, PHP development will be stuck due to Zend business > interests. Again. We should be asking Zeev why he objected the introduction of compiler and cache extensions to PHP distributions. > That is one more reason to not boycott the integration of the free > alternatives in PHP, but it seems has the PHP groups under absolute > control. Well, some organization rules are there, though, I do not think things are THAT corrupted in PHP Development Group. PHP is still Open Source, remember? Manuel, as my conclusion I will say - Zend is not PHP's god-father, it is a related company, a project's partner. They make their living and it is quite irrelevant to PHP Development. If there are packages that are not introduced to PHP only because of the partnership then let's follow this question on PHP-DEV list. Regards, Maxim Maletsky