Re: Re: Protect PHP coding

At 9:37 PM -0300 8/4/02, Manuel Lemos wrote: >Hello, > >On 08/04/2002 07:43 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>>Not you, I meant Zeev presents lame excuses to avoid the subject of accepting an Open >>>Source cache extension in PHP. At that time, other PHP Group core developers remain conviniently >>>quiet. >> >>Maybe, just maybe, the whole history of how APC came about would be >>illuminating to people... especially how it relates to the Zend >>Cache (as it was called then). At the core is the question, how well >>and how much should you trust someone who ignores a NDA? Do people >>know that CC was actually *beta testing* the Zend Cache, under NDA. >>And less than 1 month after they stopped testing the Cache, APC was >>announced and released to the world? Does that sound like a weird >>thing to people? Using a sneak peak in such a devious way? And then >>to wrap such behavior up in the cloak of "Open Source" and "free for >>all." >> >>And I better not hear anyone question by standing on Open Source in >>all this... I will ignore such clueless responses. > >Jim, just one question, if somebody broke a NDA, where is the lawsuit that would have happened? >APC code is public. Did anybody demonstrate that it was developed with code or knowledge acquired >during Zend Cache beta-testing? > Maybe because such a (justified) suit would have looked very very bad to Zend, and clueless boneheads would have seen it as an attempt to "stop an open source alternative" rather than a cut-and-dried legal matter. Zend always knew and expected that open source alternatives would exist (if not, then there's no "market" for a product). But if you think that whereas the 2 main authors and architects of the Zend Engine took *several* months to create the Cache, developing, testing, tuning, and some "other guys" were able to do the same thing in a month makes logical sense, well,... so be it. -- =========================================================================== Jim Jagielski [|] jim@jaguNET.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither" - T.Jefferson