Re: Play nice! Re: Savant/Flexy/Foo template engines

Paul M Jones wrote:

I want to play nice, I really do; I hope my concession and negotiation messages have advertised that fact. A unified template system will help not only me but everyone else in PEAR and PHP land -- but Savant has got to be in PEAR for it to start working unification magic. I hope there are enough positive votes in the end to outweigh the negative. Every positive vote helps. :-)

The problem is that you don't seem to consider the implications of this. You are trying to get Savant in so that it has the same priorities as existing packages. Yes PEAR cares about BC and it also cares not to confuse its users. What you are trying to do is ensure that Savant gets the same level of "protection". In reality you are making this unified template thing even more complicated. You are making the situation for users even more confusing. You are putting even more code in a section we all agree should much rather be cleaned up. You do this in a polite manner, while you choose to ignore what experienced people tell you (for months!). Sorry I have a hard time to see where you are looking out for PEAR. You are trying to squeeze your stuff in (I am not saying that there is a need for the basic feature set you proposed). I guess this is a valid approach but don't label this cooperation. Anyways, Savant seems to becoming a reality in PEAR as unfortunately allot of people choose the quick fix over a better long term solution. Especially as Savant is so easy to install I don't understand why they are doing this. So it goes. regards, Lukas