Re: Group/Community Disconnect
| From: | Paul M Jones | Date: | Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:50:09 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Group/Community Disconnect | ||
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Hi, Helgi,
On Jun 9, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Helgi Þormar wrote:
Not saying it's a Group "decision" per se, but it's obvious to me that Group members share a set of values that is not shared by the rest of the community.To illustrate: Of the 6 negative votes for Savant, 5 are from the Group. All of the 12 positive votes are from regular non-Group developers. What does this say about the disconnect between the Group and the community? The PEAR community is speaking; PEAR Group should listen.Tell me, who says that those votes come from some PEAR Group decision ?
Also what's up with this fetish of yours with the PEAR Group?Heh. :-) Not a fetish at all, sorry it looks that way. Let's just say I'm a stickler for good management and a troublemaker to boot; call me an Ogre.
Seems everything that goes wrong for you here in anyway, or that you see something wrong, then you start blaming that the PEAR Group doesn't do this and should do that and yara yara yara ...Not at all -- I only talk about PEAR Group when they start talking about policy.
This is starting to be very annoying IMO.Sorry, sorry, not trying to be an annoyance -- but I gotta call it when I think I see it.
Even though member of the group don't agree with you in something, then it doesn't mean that it's a decision from the group, those members are also individuals that can speak their own mind, with out being linked to the group.Sure they can, and I welcome it! But as I said before, they seem to share a set of values that is not in line with the rest of the community (well, the 5 who have voted on Savant, anyway, the remaining two may prove me wrong).
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