Re: Why PHP ? - devil's advocate
| From: | Joe Stump | Date: | Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:55:09 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Why PHP ? - devil's advocate | ||
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> Whether I'm running Windows or Linux or FreeBSD or Solaris,
> my time is valuable. If I can install something in Windows
> in 10 minutes, rather than hours or days of tracking down compilation
> issues, then Windows becomes more attractive. The
> positives and negatives of each system need to be taken into
> account, but I think that for *many* people, the perception
> of difficulty in compiling/using open source stuff becomes the reality.
And how much of your valuable time do you spend keeping those NT machines up
and running. I've spent a total of 30 minutes at the CoLo in the last month
and that was to replace bad hardware.
Like I said before the time spent setting up a rock solid solution easily
outways the time of upkeep with an unstable NT solution - and I've seen MANY
people spend WEEKS getting those up and running because they don't always work
as well as you seem to think they do.
--Joe
>
> Those of you who've grown up in Unix or have the luxury of
> weeks or months or years of education at the low level of
> Unix can get past many issues - many others of us can't. And
> don't have the time to go further.
>
> I've been very grateful for many open source projects - there's
> some great quality out there. But compiling and installing
> many projects is still a headache beyond belief in many instances.
>
> Joe Stump wrote:
>
> > We (the open source community) give you SO many options, empower you with the
> > ability to do it your way, the ability to create your own way. The thanks we
> > get? "So many different versions around..." !!!!
> >
> > I'm (as most open source people are I'm sure) sick of hearing people complain
> > about "this is hard", "why this way?", etc. - if you like Bill telling
> > you how
> > to run your operations then go out and spend the capital to run it his way.
> >
> > I on the other hand would rather have a rock solid solution created to fit our
> > EXACT specifications - for free.
> >
> > --Joe
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:43:11AM +0100, Sander Pilon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You can pay a company to get you precompiled binaries of the app.
> > > > There are
> > > > so many opensource companies out there.
> > > > I'm not sure if you tried looking for one of those? :-)
> > > >
> > > > Saludos... :-)
> > > >
> > >
> > > One of the primary (and recognised) problems of linux is that
> > > the distribution of binaries is a nightmare. So many different versions
> > > around,
> > > so many different libcs, so many different libstdc++'s, some of them
> > > thread-safe,
> > > some of them not, so many different graphical platforms.... etc, etc.
> > >
> >
> > ---
> > Joe Stump
> > PHP Programmer
> > www.Care2.com
> >
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Joe Stump
PHP Programmer
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