Re: pear installer in PHP 5.1 RC1

From: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:55:28 +0000
Subject: Re: pear installer in PHP 5.1 RC1
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:03:19 +0200 tobias@schlitt.info (Tobias Schlitt) wrote: > Hi Rasmus Lerdorf! > On 08/11/05 12:06 you wrote: > > I actually believe that my opinion does not count much here > (mainly because I did not touch the installer code in any way by > now), but I'm offering my 2ct to be heard. > > > We can't put an RC1 out there until we fix the pear/XML_RPC > > issue. Personally I'd like to completely get rid of it, but I > > see the following options: > > > 1. Put pear 1.4 into RC1 which means we can drop XML_RPC and go > > REST > > Since this is an RC, for me it would be fine to have an actual > alpha version bundled. That does not harm anyone. We still have > to fix the REST stuff before doing so. Any other issues (like > design problems and stuff) can definitly wait until the next RC. I have many times in the past asked to upgrade the bundled version between RC, it was rejected. The reason is simple, RC means that the features are done and only bug fixes will get in (in our current case, 1.3.x not 1.4.0). About the other issues, design problems or stuffs as you called them, I rather totally disagree here. It's like saying, oh let put pdo in, we will have to change the API and some other important things post RC, who cares? This is simply badly thought. Besides the fact that 1.4 is not ready, for now the only viable (and sure) solution is 4). If we magically get more feedbacks (not only bug reports but also about the new format and its limitiation/problems as well), and we are still in a RC stage, then we may see if we can get in 5.1. For now it's pure speculations and dreams, I hate dreams in php, they never worked out. Regards, --Pierre ps: I CC Andi as he is the RM for 5.1 and he certainly has a thought about that

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