Re: pear installer in PHP 5.1 RC1

Pierre-Alain Joye <pierre@dotgeek.org> wrote: > It is useless and does not bring any additionnal flexibility. Actually, it brings a lot of additional flexibility. One of the biggest complaints about PEAR out in the wild is the inclusion of bloated code. Even if someone can include PEAR/ErrorStack.php specifically rather than the entire PEAR.php file, developers who wish to leverage PEAR_ErrorStack must either manually unbundle the ErrorStack code, or package up the whole PEAR installer. Again, this is a bloat issue. Enabling developers to use ErrorStack functionality alone, without having to worry about the rest of the PEAR installer in their applications, is a huge benefit, is _very_ useful and adds considerable flexibility. > But it brings one more check when we bundle, for example. I don't see how this is a big deal. Given that Greg is the lead developer on PEAR 1.4.x and PEAR_ErrorStack, I don't think checking on this external dependency will be a major inconvenience for anyone. > If there is a critical bug in PEAR, we just release it another PEAR 1.4.x+1 > for example, no problem with that. What about non-critical bugs? By breaking things down into smaller components, it's easier to make smaller, incremental enhancements -- as you already know, I'm sure. > PEAR_Error is in pear, the ErrorStack is something like a version > two and belongs to PEAR. As it was defined during the proposal > stage. It's a "core" source file and must be in the main package. Surely it's conceivable for a developer to change positions on a package and it's most appropriate place after the proposal stage? You may want to review this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=109607852600004&r=1&w=2 Greg expresses a desire to release updates to PEAR_ErrorStack more often than the typical release cycle for PEAR core allows, which would be good for everyone who is interested in the benefits that ErrorStack offers. I'm a strong +1 on breaking ErrorStack out as proposed in the above thread. -Clay -- Killersoft.com