Re: What's up with pear?

I see a ton of responses on this and I'm sure the tone of the message is definitely part of the reason. However, I think there are some small things that the fine PEAR folks could do to address this and not tie up a ton of time: 1) I think a troubleshooting section in the manual under the Installation section would be appropriate. This is where we could quickly add all the tips for installation that I'm sure many of these resposnes in my inbox to this flamer could be put. 2) I don't know how much effort it would be but it may be worth adding in user comments to the PEAR manual (similar to the PHP manual) now that it is out of production. I'm sure this has probably been talked about on this list before but maybe now is the time to revisit that idea. 3) The PEAR base tarball exists and that is great. Maybe the PEAR manual should be adjusted to have just a "Getting PEAR" section that talks about both downloading the tarball AND using the PEAR package manager. Also adding a small section on how to manually install additional PEAR packages not in the base code. I feel the pain...it amazes me how people can flame a list like this considering all this work is voluntary. However, just because most of our contributions are free doesn't mean we don't have a responsibility to address recurring issues (windows PEAR installation problems aren't new to this list). I think we should just ask ourselves "what is the smallest thing we can deliver in a short amount of time that adds the greatest value?" I hope my items above is a start and I'm sure there are other good examples of simple things we can do to address this. Anyway, in an effort to not be perceived as 'all talk' I'd be willing to help out with some of this. -- Tony Bibbs "I guess you have to remember that those who don't tony@tonybibbs.com hunt or fish often see those of us who do as harmlessly strange and sort of amusing. When you think about it, that might be a fair assessment." --Unknown