RE: [PHP] i thought this was a php developers list

I am not talking about developing the php programming language, but writing php code. php-dev is for developers of the programming language, that's quite different. I have replied to quite some messages an provided code, but you obviously missed it. Here is an exerpt of the page you all subscribed from to this list (http://www.php.net/support.php): --snip-- Mailing Lists One of the best resources is the very friendly and helpful mailing lists. There are a few PHP-related mailing lists available. Announcements of new PHP releases are sent the php-announce list. (This is a very low-volume, moderated list.) The main list for PHP users is php-general@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated, high volume list, and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) The list for discussing database topics is php-db@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated list and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) The list for discussing installation issues and problems is php-install@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated list and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) The list for discussing internationalization (i18n) and localization (l10n) issues and features is php-i18n@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated list and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) The list for discussion migration from earlier versions of PHP is php-migration@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated list and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) The list for Windows PHP users is php-windows@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated list and is also available in a twice-daily digest.) Users interested in early access to PHP releases so that they can provide feedback about bugs to the developers before releases go out to the world can subscribe to the Beta list. (This is an unmoderated, low-volume list.) The list for those who want to help out with the development of PHP is php-dev@lists.php.net. (This is an unmoderated, medium-volume list.) The Knowledge Base list receives daily mailings that contain summaries of topics discussed on the user list, as well as other topics drawn from the Knowledge Base. More information about the Knowledge Base can be found at http://www.faqts.com/. --snip-- You can see that questions about 'problems installing php', php related questions etc are not in place on the general list, since there is a specific list for both of them. Again what dissapoints me is that people use this list as a replacement of their manual, and that should -in my opinion- not be the case. Greetings Jeroen Wesbeek Webdeveloper DoWebWeDo St. Jacobsstraat 16 3500 AK Utrecht 030-2348110 [ Roses are red, violets are blue, I am schizophrenic and so am I ] [ If you don't understand it, get rid of it ] -----Original Message----- From: Hellekin O. Wolf [mailto:hellekin@mmania.com] Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2000 11:38 To: Jeroen Wesbeek Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] i thought this was a php developers list Why don't YOU provide code and advanced tips ? You should try php-dev. Jeroen Wesbeek wrote: > > I have been on this list a while now and it bothers me that this 'developers > list' appears to be more of an "I-didn't-read-my-php-manual-first" kind of > list. > > Questions like redirecting to another page (and getting the same level of > thinking kind of answers like 'use meta refresh' or 'use a > document.location') > or checking if a viariable is set are so very basic that it -in my > opinion- > should definately not appear on this list. Grab a manual and read it or go > to > a newbie list *sigh*. > > Ofcourse all developers started out as being newbies, but the thing with me > and other developers I know is that we DID RTFM! > > I was hoping for interesting questions or suggestions from people who are > really knowing what they are doing and bring in that way the knowledge of > all parties to a higher level, but on the contrary... I think I'll > unsubscribe to > this list and find a list of people who truly do read their manuals before > asking, 'cause this list only consumes time, effort and mailbox space. > > Later... > > Jeroen Wesbeek > Webdeveloper > DoWebWeDo > St. Jacobsstraat 16 > 3500 AK Utrecht > Netherlands > > 030-2348110 > > [ Roses are red, violets are blue, I am schizophrenic and so > am I ] > [ If you don't understand it, get rid of it ] > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net -- _ _ _ / \_/ \ ,___ ___ (_) ,___ Hellekin O. Wolf / _._ \ / _ |/ _ \| |/ _ | mailto:hellekin@mmania.com / / \ \| (_| | | | | | (_| | phone:+33 (0)1 53 35 12 66 \_/ DEV \_/ \__,_|_| |_|_|\__,_| http://www.multimania.fr/