Re: I thought this was a PHP developers list

""Ralph Guzman"" <raguzman@netraiser.com> wrote in message news:NEBBJJNLKLPMKFNJHGGACEABCBAA.raguzman@netraiser.com... > What is the big deal. Some people may be new to programming and they might > be trying to dive into it using PHP. Whether it be the simplest question > like "What is PHP?" we are here to help. > > As far as the manual goes, I think that unless you know what it is that you > are looking for, it serves no purpose to a newbie. What you really mean is that "the manual won't do a newbie's job for them". How do you think anyone on the list learned enough to be able to answer questions in the first place? If someone is new to PHP, they should accept the fact that they'll need to read the language background material or buy a book before being able to work in the language. There's also a huge number of posts that are of the form "How do I do $Task" where $Task is the *name* of the section in the manual and they've never even looked at so much as the index for that section. A very high number of the newbie posts can be answered by copying the question from the email and pasting it into your favorite search engine. The manual won't teach you how to program but it certainly will teach you PHP. The problem is that a certain number of people don't actually want to learn anything if it will require more than 30 seconds ("<whine>Eeew - it'd be, like, work and I'd have *ready*</whine>"); they just want someone else to do their work for them. There's quite a difference between a post from someone who is confused or has found something weird and someone who is too lazy to even try learning the basic language syntax. Chris