RE: [PHP] I thought this was a PHP developers list

I really think all of you are really taking this whole thing too far. Geeks: You know how to use Procmail don't you? RTFM if you don't. <g> Go setup some filters for yourself and deal with it. Newbies: I don't know about anyone else, and I don't particularlly care, but, Any newbies out there who need help, please feel free to e-mail me directly using this e-mail address: someone@internetaddress.com. (Yes, that is a real e-mail address) I would be happy to help you in any way I can. I think it's foolish to think you can change the whole darn system because there are a few of you out there who think your getting too much e-mail. I don't know about the rest of you but I was warned before hand the amount of e-mail on this list... I have filters that go through and sort out this list and even follow the threads for me... I've got no problems, I don't see why any of you should either. John -----Original Message----- From: Julian Morcinek [mailto:jmorcinek@sat-con.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:10 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] I thought this was a PHP developers list Hi all I think the solution maybe to create two lists: php-beginner and php-advanced. For the php advanced list to work it means some form of moderation, whether by an appointed moderator or the list members themselves pointing 'newbie' questions (politely) to the apppropriate list. The list **is** becoming too big (IMHO), some days I get over 150 messages and get to archive over 1500 messages every ten days or so. As an intermediate level PHP programmer I would use both lists (so no change in the quantity of mails then), some days I would use the advanced list and other days the beginner list. If I knew the answer to a question I hope I'd post to either list. At least the newbies wouldn't feel so freaked about asking questions, and the geeks could chew on raw code. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "gfunk007" <josh@gfunk007.com> To: <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] I thought this was a PHP developers list > Hahahahahaha! I don't like some geek's holier-than-thou attitude and > he wants to fight me? Oh well good luck to him I suppose :-) > > Stupid argument anyway. Newbies aren't going away, and even gurus > need to ask "stupid" questions sometimes..... sheesh. > > -Gfunk > > [-= Visit my website! http://www.gfunk007.com/ - ICQ:74477509 > =-] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andreas Pour <pour@mieterra.com> > To: gfunk007 <josh@gfunk007.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP] I thought this was a PHP developers list > > > > > > If you are ever in New York, please let me know so you can say these > > things to my face. Loser. > > > > You're in my kill file, so don't bother responding. > > > > > > gfunk007 wrote: > > > > > > Oh fuck off... First of all, the archives are almost useless, the > > > search is so stupid it's hard to find the answers to almost anything, > > > and secondly, the search url isn't on the list any more, so where > > > does joe newbie go to find out? If you don't wanna help somebody, > > > then don't. Keep your elitist opinions to yourself, if you're so damned > > > good at it what are you doing on this list anyway? > > > > > > -Gfunk > > > > > > [-= Visit my website! http://www.gfunk007.com/ - > > > ICQ:74477509 =-] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Andreas Pour <pour@mieterra.com> > > > To: <M.vanderMerwe@expro.shell.co.uk> > > > Cc: <J.Wesbeek@DoWebWeDo.com>; <php-general@lists.php.net> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] I thought this was a PHP developers list > > > > > > > M.vanderMerwe@expro.shell.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I read the manual, or at least the parts of it I was interested in, > but > > > > > I've learnt a lot by just sitting and reading the mails on this > list. > > > > > In a few months all the people on this list will know more about > PHP. > > > > > It's a growing thing. No one was born an adult, this is the same, we > > > > > learn as we go along and soon everyone knows a lot more and > questions > > > > > change in relation to that experience. > > > > > > > > > > If all the learners go to a newbie list, who will answer the > questions? > > > > > I've never seen a manual that answers all questions. > > > > > > > > True, but if I see one more mail asking how to do MIME mail > attachments, > > > > I'm gonna hurl. It's true that newbies should be able to ask any > > > > question, but not the same one over and over and over again. All it > > > > takes is checking the archives before posting a question -- but of > > > > course that is more work for the poster. > > > > > > > > It's the old adage about giving someone a fish and teaching them to > > > > fish. If people bothered searching the archives before posting > > > > questions this list would be bearable; as it stands I also am about to > > > > give up. > > > > > > > > And that's a shame, as 1 in every 50 posts is very interesting. Would > > > > be nice if someone played moderator and there was a moderated version > of > > > > the list . . . . > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > > > > > Andreas > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net