Re: Object framework, collaborative projects, management, future vision

Jean-Michel Poure <jm.poure@freesurf.fr> wrote: > At 13:51 09/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >>2. new classes aren't getting distributed w/ PHP, and PEAR installer stuff >>seems far from being usable by everyday PHP users (please correct me if i'm >>wrong here. status on the state of the installer and a brief explanation of >>how it works would be awesome, if anyone involved has the time). > > I don't understand the logic behind this. PEAR is meant to be a single set > of basic libraries delivered in the standard PHP branch. This is the power > of Linux, which gives access to all required libraries at onece. I don't > see the meaning of splitting your work. This is pure destruction!!! i don't think pear is meant to be a single set of basic libraries delivered in the standard php distribution. (there may be a small subset of what people call 'pear' that includes this.) your linux analogy is weak. i would consider the main php distribution to be analogous to the linux kernel, which does not include various supporting libraries. (this analogy is also tenuous because of the current kitchen-sink approach to how things have been added to the main php distribution.) apparently, you see the main php distribution as analogous to something like red hat linux. i think you are in the minority in that view. >>decentralization and federation is where it is at, not centralization. > > Decentralization does not mean PEAR should not be organized. I am new to > PEAR. Who are the project leader? Whom can I submit ideas of porting Swing? > Again, what is your vision? Who is responsible for writing documentation? federation is a type of organization. i think that the closest thing that pear has to the project leader is stig bakken. if you knew who to submit the idea of porting swing to, what do you expect they would do with the idea? in my vision, the people who choose to write documentation are responsible for writing it. in my experience, unless you are going to start paying salaries, expecting anything more is only setting yourself up for disappointment. > Can anyone give me precise answers? I am not trying to criticize PEAR, I am > only looking for a 'home' for collaborative projects including frameworks > (not template search/replace tools, I can find good ones elsewhere). What > do think of BinaryCloud? Do you think it has good chances to be included as > a standard in Php? i don't see any benefit to including binarycloud with php. i see tremendous benefits to it being an independent piece of software that can maintain its own release schedule and development processes. jim