RE: [PHP-QA] Resurrecting the Function Renaming Thread

At 17:32 7.2. 2001, James Moore wrote the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- >> All of this is "just" a matter of finding a sensible compromise. > > Im very anti loosing my nice lot of C like functions and this is a very >closed group on this list just wait until you start commiting these changes >and people get wind of what your thinking about doing, rename functions that >are not named according to the specs but leave code functions alone, are you >going to rename echo to output_string? printf to print_formatted, be >sensible and leave core functions alone. > >James James, I'm active in this thread because I'm interested in the topic, not to piss you off. There's nothing personal in this, and I'm not going to go and shove the changed language down your throat. (Not even if I could.) The people who are involved in this thread participate because they a) want to scratch their itch (like me), and b) try to avoid a major PITA. (YMMV, but honestly, I think we're just hiding our personal preference behind all the "lots of people with this and whatnot background".) I'm glad you didn't just turn your back on the debate, because voices from all the ends of the spectre are essential.A sign of disagreement is more useful (and more welcome) than turning away, and than just voting -1. This thing is nothing easy, and the more I think about it, the more I scratch my head, but I think we can eventually find a win-win solution. Rumor has it camel was designed by a committee. I think that camel may evolve in the wild as well, and that this is what happened (and is happening) with PHP. We can try (we're actually doing it right now) and see if a horse is a possible output of a committee. And if we come to a conclusion that it would rather look like an octopus, well, that means that current state is the best we can achieve, and that's also good to know. YMMV, but I think the debate is worth it no matter what the outcome will be. BTW, I don't think this change should be made begind a closed door, either. I was thinking of PHP-QA and PHP-DEV as places where ideas are brought, hammered, and either percieved as reasonable, or discarded. The former would then be presented to the public to vote on. Something like: we were talking about strlen (just an example), and possible changes/aliases are str_len and str_length. What do you think? THAT would be OSS. :)) ____________________________________________________________ Cynic: A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is the essential part of virtue. cynic@mail.cz