RE: [PHP4BETA] php and MS SQL Server....

> -----Original Message----- > From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:mlemos@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 12:33 AM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: azajonc@POMONA.EDU; php4beta@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP4BETA] php and MS SQL Server.... > > Hello Andrei, > > Aren't you guys even a little fed up of this thread? If you keep > questioning what I say I am forced to reply to restore the truth > so I don't > get to be the bad guy. > I love it. If you question what I say, I'm forced to keep this huge and pointless thread going :). Yeah, and if you question what *I* say, I will be forced to do the same thing. Whoops, endless loop. > Rasmus descrimination towards myself is a long story of sad > episodes that I > am not please to bring up over and over again. Superb, we'll your discrimination of Eskimo Indians is a long sad story which I don't want to bring up again either. Listen, are we supposed to listen, much less care in the slightest about some alleged long story of discrimination. For all I care, Rasmus and crew could just hole themselves up somewhere and never respond to anyone. I'd count your blessing that someone is willing to work for you for free, rather than count acts of discrimination. > there are a few other people that > express their solidarity because they also have been mistreated by Rasmus > till they feel discouraged to even come to public lists and ask basic > things because they don't want to put up with him. Thankfully, because of Open Source they don't. They can do whatever they want, and don't have to put up with anyone's attitudes. > The only difference is that I bother to speak freely in public forums so > you wake up and see that there are some people that are sistematically put > away from providing useful contributions just because Rasmus doesn't like > their "faces". Never mind, it was not your foot it was stepped on. You've woken me up all right. I just have to look at the sheer quantity of messages this thread has, none of which seem to offer anything constructive whatsoever accept allusions to acts of discrimination, as if that is even an issue. If there are useful contributions you and other star coders have, set up a little site a la PHPLib and start releasing. You can be sure if they catch on, they will be integrated. > >patch was not accepted in clear terms. If you decide to be grumpy about > >that, it's your choice, but don't go around badmouthing people who have > >done so much for the community. > > This is the ridiculous part!!! Just one more last said episode so you get > to know what kind of person Rasmus that you praise for doing so much for > the community. Mmm, it makes sense to me. Instead of being pissed, get even. Do PHP better, or make some killer add-on and show everyone else up. > send the books over to me, except guess who? Precisely Rasmus, your > praised community leader. He isn't a 'praised community leader'. He's a damn coder doing some damn fine work. I don't want community leaders, I want reliable and cool software. > publically questioned why he didn't add Public questioning, perhaps we can have public hearings. Here in America, Congress as these, and they are often a huge waste of time. > For somebody that you praise for doing so much for the community, you have > to admit that these repeated episodes are at least very weird! Maybe his > sense of community is that everybody is equal, but some are less equal and > don't deserve his cooperation even when it is all for the good of > that same > community. Oh, never mind. :-( Right. Nevermind, that doesn't make a lick of sense. It's not weird at all. It's what you'd expect from someone coding the next great thing. He does a lot for the community be ignoring the thousands of little bits of junk to develop something we all can use, plus perhaps sneak in a life there as well. It's interesting. The efficient and effective people are precisely the people who don't get caught up in this junk :) August Let the loop continue....