Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 5, 2016 7:32 AM, "Peter Lind" <peter.e.lind@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > +1. The proposed CoC is too vague for a multi-cultural environment like > > ours. Reference to ethics, for example, is subjective by nature. But I'm OK > > for a more precise text that everybody must explicitely approve before > > getting any karma. > > > > But I am opposed to any form of law enforcement board. I understand it > > ensures privacy but my feeling is that we don't need privacy here, and we > > never needed such a mechanism during 20 years. Most questionable messages > > are published on the mailing list. If someone receives an offending private > > mail or is victim of harassment in any other way, he can just publish it on > > the list and everyone will judge if it is offending or not. Then, if we > > need to consider banning someone, anybody can create a specific RFC for > > this, but it is an extreme case that, fortunately, has a very low > > probability.. > > > > A quick question: suppose you're from a minority group, and you've been the > target of abuse previously your life. You now join the PHP community and > for whatever reason, someone takes a dislike to you and starts harassing > you in private. The abuse makes use of the same stuff you've been through > before, and because this is a real douchebag, some very humiliating things > are thrown in for good measure. > > How exactly would you feel about having all of this made explicit to all > the other PHP devs? Presumably you look up to some of these people - would > your first thought be "Oh I know! I'll post all this nasty stuff to a > public mailing list, that is archived on the web where EVERYONE can see all > the humiliation coming my way - and where google is sure to pick up all > these things about me!"? > > If you happen to belong to a minority group that often is at the receiving > end of abuse, what would you think if this was the message being sent? > Would you expect to be understood by your peers, or would their concern > about being possibly accused of something seem like an out-of-hand > rejection? > > Regards > Peter > I completely agree with Peter on this one. If my only source for recompense is to post publicly, I'm far more likely to leave the community than post anything I find harassing publicly. > -- > <hype> > WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk > CV: careers.stackoverflow.com/peterlind > LinkedIn: plind > Twitter: kafe15 > </hype>